05-29-2004, 09:26 PM
Quote:The basic logical fallacy we are faced with the infinite cause is causality. The argument that is put forth is that everything within the universe requires a cause, and therefore the Universe ,in itself, must have a cause, and that cause is God. Who then created god? Was there a still earlier god who created the god in question? We are thus led to an infinite regress - the very dilemma that the positing of a \"god\" was intended to solve. Now based on this logic we come back to the initial problem: does the universe need a cause to begin with? Now, we move on to the definition of existence: The fact or state of being. This definition, in turn, shows that existence is all that exists. Thus, therefore, we are bound to a logical fallacy when we make arguments that say such things as \"Did God create the Universe?\" and \"What is outside the Universe.\" The question you have to ask youself is how could something begin if the physical conundrum of time and space are linked to each other? Can there actually be a beginning to something that was created outside the realm of reality? By the use of simple logic, the answer is noWhere are you going with this?For one thing, I think the basis of your first question is flawed: the question of God's origins, theologically and metaphysically speaking, is not a conundrum at all. Most traditions are very clear on this; Islam, for example, says explicitly through the Qur'an that God "was not begotten." Any description of this entity will necessarily fall short of accurate description, but one way to look at it is that God is That from which the fundamental conditions of the universe are derived, the Essence of the very possibility of Being. Standard physical rules of time, space, and causality do not apply to Him, and as such questions of God's beginning and end are irrelevant.
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