05-25-2004, 03:30 PM
Speaking relatively of the trinity... it's basis is much different from that of islam...
what i mean is this.... islamic information is based on very authentic sources... we take information only from the quran and the "oral traditions" and these oral traditions go through a VERY rigourous test before acceptance..
the point that i am drawing is this... in christianity this form of taking knowledge is not accepted... as a muslim... if someone says something about god... then that person has to back up his claim with the proof of that... not only that but his proof must only come from that which the prophet himself said, did or approved of... there are a few exceptions to this rule with regards technology and the like...
so as you can see we follow islam EXACTLY the way that the prophet himself did...
can christians say the same for christ...
well not with the trinity doctrine...
how did this thing come about....
hmmmmm????
well in the year 325AD an emperor named CONSTANTINE from CONSTANTINOPLE(i think this is today Istandbul if i am not mistakened).. he held a conference where proposed the trinity doctrine... this conference produced what is known today as the treaty of nicea...
he called alot of scholars of his time and they cast a vote... whether to institute the doctrine or not... the result was that the trinity doctrine should not be instituted... HOWEVER... The emperor still went ahead and passed the doctrine... which today is controversial among christians...(e.g. catholics and Jehova's witnesses)
Now that we see this... certain questions arises.... is this the same thing that jesus believed in???
did jesus claim to be part of the trinity doctrine....
did he <b>expressly</b> say so???
surely something as important as this would have been mentioned somewhere...
when asked to produce this most christians site verses where jesus is the son of god... but even considering this... where is the proof that jesus actually conformed to this belief...
if he did not then.. why do the christians believe in this if jesus didnt say so??
hmmm????
who do they take their info from...
jesus???
or matthew, mark,luke and john???
or king james...
so josh you see the difference here with islam and christianity...
when it comes to things like this we are very strict with whom we get our info from....
now considering the above....
answer this with proof....
do christians do the same....
please note josh.. my words are for knowledge NOT for argument... i hope insha allah that we will both learn from these discussions