What did you think of Israel assassinating Rantisi?

[phatmonky]

<i>Originally posted by Sham </i><b>1> The white mans rule of 10 years ago is not forgotten because the black people are now doing exactly what the white man has done. It is just reverse apartheid. Good or bad - Well this is debatable.</b>

2>I can not explain to you about Israel and their right to be there because with all the nonsence that the media prints out the truth is always hidden. The focus is always on the peripheral issues and not on the truth.  They blow these outside issues out of proportion and try to take away the focus of the people from the real issues. If Israel has a right to the land so does the Palestinians. So why not give the Palestians equall rights to that country. Why not adopt the policy of \"live let live\"

3>As for \"leaders being corrupt\" show one leader that is not. It is like the \"pot calling the kettle black\". Do you know the saying \"To be a politician you have to be two faced\" In my opinion it is true saying. I urge you not to mix politics with religion. This is the fault of many people. What the americans are trying to do is brainwash the people into thinking that the \"terrorism means islam\" and that is what they are continously trying to portray. And this is wrong. Islam does not promote terrorism but it certainly does promote that people should not be oppressed. When I used the \"land issue\" here in SA and compared it with the land issue in Israel I was trying to draw attention to the way the Americans dealt with the two issues and to show you how differently the world perceived it. Yet it was the same thing the question of \"Land\". When the black people rose up against the white people, did the Americans jump in and now say that the blacks here are \"Terrorists\". All of these liitle things that happen in different countries are all treated differently. But there is one thing that is common and that is America. America is an instigator for many things and they manipulate the other government if they are going to gain from it (in whatever way ie. materially or financially).  So I urge all to look deeper into these matters and see what these countries have to gain by all of this.

4>I will re-emphasise that Religion must not be mixed with Politics.  

5>And that Islam is not a terrorist religion that the Israel's and Americans are trying to make Islam out to be.  

1>It's not debateable at all. It's wrong. It was wrong then, it's wrong now. You admit it was wrong then. You follow it with a post about double standards. Surely you then realize how wrong it is now. Are the teachings of Mandela lost??

2>Well I can explain to you about it. Israel is a recognized state. It exists, and therefore, just as any other country it has the right to exist. As does Palestine!

I am sorry for jumping to the conclusion that you too wished for the end of Israel, as many on this board have expressed.

I understand the arguments on what should be done, what borders should be set, etc. However, anyone who is says "Israel has no right to be" is incredibly biased, and refuses to look at what a country even is!

3>You see though, I am not blaming you for it. I am saying that your goals cannot happen so long as your populous cannot control who is in government. Corruption is one thing. Corruption with NO accoutability is another.

Now, what I find amazing is that you claim we are TRYING to associate muslims with terrorist. We have spent MILLIONS educating people that those in the middle east, and elsewhere are just like us and trying to understand the culture. We teach this in schools. We are told "Al quada is just a small group of extremist and not all muslims are like this". I see a public service announcemenet on this subject every week reminding me to be tolerant.

If you want a common link, the common link is Islam used as a reason for killing civilians.

Kenya

Perle.

Bali.

9/11

Spain.

Chechnya

Iraq

And now Nick Berg.

All of them people claiming these horrendous acts in the name of Islam. And that is only since the 9/11 attacks!

When our soldiers broke our laws in our name, we stopped it. We are punishing them, we apologised, we put new means in place to avoid this in the future. What has the Muslim world done to condemn all of these attacks? When Pakistan and Saudi Arabia arrest terrorist, the governments are labeled to be traitors for helping us.

This is how things are seen on the outside. Dont' assume my questions are accusatoins please. You say I can't paint everyone with a single brush- I wouldn't be on this board if I was looking to do that.

4>Religion is ingrained in Muslims country politics. Hence, the reason they are considered "muslim countries". Sharia law, full fledged theocracies, clerics choosing what their people will and won't do. It's all twisted together. And while I agree that it shouldn't be the case, it is! It's undeniable!

5> Again, so amazing.