05-10-2004, 06:31 AM
Bismillah Arr7man Ara7im.
Wa3laikm Aslam Wr7matullah Wbrakatoh, Sister.
I Always Thought that the western mind is always more convinced by science more than any other stuff. We have many websites with so many articles about the miracles of the Quran. Yet little is designed to discuss an idea by conversation, it just all discuss the ideas and thats all and explain the Quranic or Hadith relationship, So my point is to roll those facts out infront of some of those who come into our forum . I believe so many can be convinced even if we didnt talk to them, all they need is just follow the Issue and read, definitely non-moslem input will add to the objectivity of the discussion here, I strongly welcome any non-moslem input because it will have a cummulative effect on how convincing is the topic.
Here is my first Issue that some moslems do not even talk about when they discuss Quran as a Miraclous Book and a Divine revelation: The City of Iram, the City of People of Ad(Aad/3ad)
Sorat Alfajr: ( seest thou not how the lord had dealt with the Ad(people), of the City of IRAM, with Lofty Pillars-Columns-,the like of which were not produced in -all- of the land) ,
The City have always be a mystry for Both Moslems and Non-moslem schoolars, even Anti-Islam scholars!
The city have no historical record that prove its existence except within the Quran, and thence it has always caused much talk from anti-moslem scholars that Muhammad PBUH created this city from his mind. Time only and a remote Satellite sensor proved the Quran is accurate in the following aspects about the City and its People:
A.It does indicate that the city have existence, where other sources do no even leave a space for a word for its existence.
B. The Verse of Sorat alfajr Described the nature and the architecture of city , and that it has lofty pillars and its people were huge, and just only this YEAR that ARAMCO in East south Saudi discovered huge bodies of humans where the people of Ad used to reside in history. This was told by the Prophet PBUH that they had huge bodies that enabled them to build such city!!!
C. The City have fossiles and remains of antiques that prove that the name of their leader was Aadh. who used to controle trade route between India and south Arabia with Syria and palestine, and he used to lead a rich country and had endeavours to build such city.
D. Another Discovery in Syria, the City of Elba relates to ages before Mohammad had some records of the names of states they used to have trade relations with, the name of the city of Ad was among the names of all the ancient cities known their time .
Subhanallah!, All the world before 17 years from now used to say Mohammad created this city from his mind to fool Arabs/people with his religion and a NASA remote Sattellite approves what is on Sorat Alfajr of our Quran, and another ancient discovery in Syria done by WESTERNER non-moslem does approve the accuracy of the Quran which came ages after the people of Ad and Iram City.
This Poem was found in the remains of the citys times Marwan Bin abdulmalik.
Take warning O proud,
And in length o' life vain!
I'm Shaddad son of Ad,
Of the forts castellain,
Lord of pillars and power,
Lord of tried might and main,
Whom all earth sons obeyed
For my mischief and bane,
And who held East and West
In mine awfulest reign.
He preached me salvation
Whom God did assain,
But we crossed him and asked,
"Can no refuge be ta'en?"
When a Cry on us cried
From th' horizon plain,
And we fell on the field
Like the harvested grain,
And the Fixt Day await
We, in earth's bosom lain!
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La Ilaha Illa allah, Mohammadan Rasul Allah.Nothing ever last till ever but Him-SWT
I hope you all enjoy what I just decided to share with you from my own words as I saw the sisters interested and Inshallah I have much to share.So, Again Thank you for your support and true Prayers as I see dedicated moslems here whome allah Loves and Listen to.
May Allah help us all with this thread. I ask Him support and success and I trust only Him-SWT-.
(Assalam)