05-01-2004, 05:09 PM
Please note that i do not hold to any conspiray theory
Quote:<i>Originally posted by Purgetroy </i><b></b>I agree with you .... we need to stop inventing alot of craziness on these things.... stop believing everything we hear and look for the truth ourselves.....
Conclusion:
Now how I see things. I see that Arabs, and muslims mainly, can see very clearly that they are at the bottom of a pit. Our nation is at its lowest time in history and I doubt it will get any lower than this. The problem is that we see a problem, but instead of learning from our mistakes and trying to solve it, we invent some conspiracy theory and blame our problems on them. We stop and think, and when I say think, I mean to think with your own head and not with anyone elses. Even a preacher could be wrong. In the end, make your own research and reach your own conclusions.
Any of those conspiracy believers out there would like to start an argument about this are more than welcome. Inshallah I will reply as soon as possible.
let me give you my take on the situation... the only things that i can say for sure is what i have heard of the lodge.. FROM ACTUAL LODGEMEMBERS..... in my country this is rampant.... there are alot of freemasons around there have even been other lodges...
Very often in the past i have had clashes with freemasons of a low order... asking them about their organisation and their affilitation...
my freind...(lets call him Mr.X) joined the lodge about a year ago... he is very much intrigued with them... I was also very curious to hear about their operations...
Mr.X said that they were an organisation that is based on god... (our country has 3 major religious groups Islam, Hinduism,and Christianity) He said that at their meetings they put all 3 religious books open and convene the meeting... they believe that there is one god who they call the architect... upon inception to their respective lodges they are given an apron... this is a symbol of their affiliation to the group...
My dad went to the funeral of a freemason and what he saw them do is that they put on this apron together with a white gloves and white hat for the dead person... this is because they believe that when they are ressurected they will use this to recognise each other...
let me pause a minute to draw your attiention to some matters that arises from what i just said above
<b>They have their own concept of god</b>
<b>they have their own concept of the hereafter</b>
<b>IS THIS NOT ENOUGH TO CONVINCE A MUSLIM THAT FREEMASONRY IS A DEEN..... NOT JUST AN ORGANISATION.????</b>
now back to my story....
I told this person....
Islam believes in one god why dont you join islam???
he replied...
freemasonry is a brotherhood???
I told him islam has the epitome of brotherhood (referring to the ansar and the muhajir and what islam is supposed to be)..
to this he had nothing to say....
now lets get to the secret.....
I asked Mr.X about if they have any rituals.. he said they do.... some of them he is allowed to see and some he is not allowed to see...
<b>HMMM WHY THE SECRETS????? I WONDER...</b>
upon more questioning more on the situation... i found out that Mr.X was bound by an oath that he swore to the lodge...
<b>DID HE SWEAR ALLEGIANCE TO THEM???? </b> ]
<b>IS THIS ALLOWED IN ISLAM????</b>
<b>HOW CAN ANYONE SWEAR ALLGEGIANCE TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN ALLAH AND HIS MESSANGER AND THAT WHICH THEY ALLOWED??? IS THIS NOT SHIRK????????????? SUBHANALLHI AMMA YUSHRIKOON</b>
My brothers and sisters i have seen documents from masonic lodges... I have seen that this thing is far from islam.... i beseech any one who is affiliated with it....
PLEASE DO NOT JOIN THEM BECAUSE OF ALL THE FAMOUS PEOPLE THAT YOU WILL MEET....
DO NOT DO THINGS FOR AFFLUENCE OR FOR WORLDLY GAIN....
REMEMBER THE AAYAH....
Quote:<b>SURELY MY PRAYER MY SACRIFICE, MY LIVING AND MY DYING...IS FOR ALLAH LORD OF THE WORLDS</b>I have soo much more to say on the topic but i will end here with this last point for all muslims and non muslims to ponder upon....
when one joins freemasonry... they lodge takes over... they do not allow any religious affiliation to your funeral when you die... in other words THEY will see to your funeral preparations....
which one of us is so ungrateful to his lord that he is willing to give up an islamic funeral for one of freemasonry....
which one of us is this stupid???
A'uudhubillahi min sharri dhaalik