03-26-2004, 03:35 PM
Quote:Wrong. I say it is barbaric 7th century savagery. And there are millions of people who agree with me.Oh really John, here we go again, we becasue we are muslims are barbaric, jews killing palestenians and blowing their homes is not barbaric, America throwinng an atomic bomb on herushima and najazaky is not barbaric, the french and british invading the world and killing millions of muslims is not barbaric, the french and british using Muslim soldiers in their wars against germany and russia is not barbaric, the american nation raised on the ruins of red indians( who mostly were muslims) is not barbaric, russia killing afghanis, chechany's, and whoever came in their way is not barbaric, what is then John?
Islam is only barbaric, and u know why, because we call for worshipping one God only, because we call for high morals, because we have strict rules against killers, adultry, and drunk people, because we want the word of Allah to be spread and his doctrines to be implemented, because we want clean societies, clean from adultry, killing stealing and bribing, Islam is the way of life weather u like it or not, or any other millions or billions of others along with u, and u know what our prophet said that, he said that the non beleivers will be more than the beleivers and that his people, are like a small white hair in a body of an oax. You are like Allah said in his holly book :
In the name of Allah the Most Gracious the Most Merciful:
28:47 If (We had) not (sent thee to the Quraish),- in case a calamity should seize them for (the deeds) that their hands have sent forth, they might say: "Our Lord! why didst Thou not sent us an apostle? We should then have followed Thy Signs and been amongst those who believe!"
28:48 But (now), when the Truth has come to them from Ourselves, they say, "Why are not (Signs) sent to him, like those which were sent to Moses?" Do they not then reject (the Signs) which were formerly sent to Moses? They say: "Two kinds of sorcery, each assisting the other!" And they say: "For us, we reject all (such things)!"
28:49 Say: "Then bring ye a Book from God, which is a better guide than either of them, that I may follow it! (do), if ye are truthful!"
28:50 But if they hearken not to thee, know that they only follow their own lusts: and who is more astray than one who follow his own lusts, devoid of guidance from God? for God guides not people given to wrong-doing.
So no matter how much proof u read or we try to give u, u will not beleive and at the end you are the loser, but don't think we will give up we will keep defending our relegion with our lives, and still talk out we do not care what happens, or what others say, which I am sure that u will post a sarcastic answer to my post or any others. Again
I will say we all muslims, true muslims will keep on answering back as long as we live, and I would like to use Allah's words here to tell u :
In the Name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful:
3:64 Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but God; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than God." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to God's Will).
3:65 Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding?
3:66 Ah! Ye are those who fell to disputing (Even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is God Who knows, and ye who know not!
3:67 Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to God's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with God.
3:68 Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Apostle and those who believe: And God is the Protector of those who have faith.
3:69 It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray (Not you), but themselves, and they do not perceive!
3:70 Ye People of the Book! Why reject ye the Signs of God, of which ye are (Yourselves) witnesses?
3:71 Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge?
So John open your eyes, and stop closing them, and u know I cannot call u really a kafir, u will be a true kaffir only when u die at that stage, because u might revert one day and be a brother for us in Islam, if Allah is willing, and he will if u try and help yourself, and try to look for the truth honestly and not just trying to condemn Islam and the Quran.
Please feel no offense, I have nothing against you, and I still hope and pray for u to c the light.
peace