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U HAVE FULL PERMISSION TO DELETE THIS THREAD ....FORGIVE ME....
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Ok sister muslimah let me give you of whatever i know ok about this:

As far as the <i>"salafees"</i>. this term <i>"salaf"</i> is used to describe the "salaf-us-saalih" who are the sahaabas (i dont know if it includes the 2 or three generations after the rasul S.A.W.S). Today there are a group of people who are referred to as <i>"salafees"</i> they say that they belong to ahlussunnah... I heard that they have said some crazy things like "may allah split the tongue of sayed qutb". and i know that they follow strictly quran and sunnah... and will not accept any contradiction therein... as for suhail's allegation that they do not accept any of the other sources of ilm, i do not know about this. One of the major criticisms of the <i>"salafees"</i> is that they treat themselves as the only ones that are correct and everyone else as wrong.

As for the ummah... many people of the Ahlus sunnah treat the <i>"salafees"</i> as a different sect of islam... i would strongly recommend that we do not do this... <b>who are we to judge??</b> the most dangerous thing that people do with regards to this situation is that they treat islamic knowledge as something trivial...

for instance the brother said:

Quote:<b># One of their worst arguments is asking for a Daleel </b>[/(Scholarly proof concerning religious matters) from Qur'an or Sunnah, which belongs to the Ulamaa (Scholars of Islam). They do not understand that Qur'an and Sunnah are the pillars on which all other Adillah (proofs) are built including Qiyas, Ijma'a, Q'aul al-Sahabi, and last but not least Maaruf (what people of good morals have agreed upon as being a good practice).
now i am not saying that he is wrong... because i simply do not know about this matter... BUT what happens to alot of people they begin to think that they can follow acts of bid'ah, if you try to correct them on this bid'ah and you produce daleel they brand you as <i>"salafees"</i>. so you see the danger. This has happened alot in trinidad...

another thing along the same lines is this:

the brother wrote about acts like not making du'a after fard as being a quality of the <i>"salafees"</i> now this may be so... but there are many people who do not make a congregational dua' after fard because they hold that it is an act of innovation and these people are not <i>"salafees"</i>. In fact this whole du'a thing is very controversial and honestly i have been looking at both sides of the argument and those who make the du'a have yet to produce proof for it, but when you ask for this they call you a <i>"salafee"</i>.

now the whole idea is this it goes back to our methodology...

i have been saying this with daleel for the past few months and am just getting ignored...

our approach to knowledge should be to:

<b>DEAL WITH TAUHID FIRST!!!!!!!!</b>

The most important topics that we should start with are...

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1. tauhid/shirk

2. sunnah/bid'ah

3. al walaa wal baraa

the major flaw with many muslims today is that they look at issues like du'a, tashahhud, and all these controversial issues and they dont even have the basics down... when this happens controversy will happen....

now people may call me a <i>"salafee"</i> for saying this but if a people claim to be muslims (specifically "ahlus sunnah"), then no one of us has the right to contradict them unless we can

<b>PRODUCE OUR DALEEL!!!!!!!!!</b>

As long as we stick to the what allah says, what his rasull says then we cannot go astray...

the article was a bit troubling because there were no grounds for saying these things... but when the brother was admonished he handled it very well alhamdulillah i must commend him on that...alhamdulillah... i look forward to see more of his posts in the future...

wa salaamu alaikum wa rahmatullah

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