Islamic sharee'a(stoning in Islam)-JohnDoe

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From my angle, he doesn't look particularly charming

Well this is your problem John, u don't like him is ur own problem, I think up till now we have showed u lots of respect, so show us some in return by not offending our prophet.

In my opinion, the whole thing was made up by men. Politicians, philosophers, thinkers, reformists and nothing more. There is absolutely no proof that Allah/God had one single conversation with mankind

Well, u still have a lot of reading and researching to do, good luck.

Proof !! WHERE ?!! You expect me to take the word of a bunch of arabic warlords that allah has charged them with the responsibilty of informing, nay, FORCING the theocratic Islam on other established civilisations ?

well well, u asked for ayas from Quran about proof of stoning, I provided to u the ayas that whatever prophet Mohamad says we should follow, but it seems u have sensitivity against anything mentioning the prophet.(sad for u)

That's not what it says in the Quran. So, there you go, the quran can be altered !

I never read your response. The beauty of the Quran is that it is simple and concise. I've quoted the verse and unless you quote the quran I can't take you seriously.

well was not this your post asking for proof from Quran.

The hadith are well known to be unreliable. Show me in the quran where it says stone the adulterers

Then I will stand corrected. The verse I quoted gives me a glimmer of hope that Islamic teachings have modecum of humanity.

Again, why don't you have a look around the Iranian's exile websites and see for yourself. After you have done that we can discuss more seriously. If you need a link to URL I can provide some.

Well, must talk a bit here, shia's are not true muslims, their beleif is that ali(the prophet's cousin should have been the first khaleefa, some of them say that gabriel was mistaken and that ali should have been the prophet, and others make him like christians made jesus, that he has the key to the heavens and hell, a jewish arab called abdallah ibn saba was the founder of this beleif, and if u tire yourself a bit and read more about them, u will see the difference between sunnah and shiaa, and also I hoe u enjoy these pictures, is this Islam, no it was never like this it will never be:

http://www.d-sunnah.net/rafedhah-act-hus.htm

http://www.d-sunnah.net/rafedhah-act-mixed.htm

http://www.d-sunnah.net/rafedhah-act-arbeeneyah.htm

http://www.d-sunnah.net/rafedhah-act-child.htm

http://www.d-sunnah.net/rafedhah-act-blood.htm

these shia's torture themselves and their children, so won't they torture others!!. we consider shi'as as non beleivers, most of them, there are very few that are moderate, but still they have added to Islam according to their own will and benefit. So I hope u would stop referring to Iran as an Islamic state. It is not and it will never be.

I am not finished with this topic yet but I will not be hasty, have to do more research:cool:

Peace(enjoy the pictures:p )