11-24-2003, 12:20 PM
Imam Malik used the following hadeeth as general evidence to the illegality of killing women and children; Ibn 'Umar (radiallaahu 'anhuma) said:
"A woman was found killed in one of the battles of the Prophet (salallaahu 'alayhee wa sallam), so the Prophet banned the killing of women and children." [Narrated by AlJama'ah (i.e. Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, At Tirmidhee) except for An Nasaa'ee, and Abu Dawood]
Quote:Sa'ab bin Jathamah (may Allah be pleased with him) reported from that the Prophet was asked about the people in the homes of Mushrikun (Polytheist) when they are attacked at night and their women and children are affected, he said: \"they are part of them\".yes, this is a special case. where you have two choices. either to stop the attack of the muslim army (which would be dangeruos) or carry out the plan and any unintentional killing of woman and children cannot be stoped unfortunatly. as long as it is unintentional.
but rampaging into a land and when you have a choice of sparing the lives of the inocent civilians yet you refuse to spare them and you kill the woman and children, then THAT is murder.
Quote:So, this Hadith shows that women, children and all those the killing of whom is forbidden, when they are separate, it is permissible to kill them when they are mixed up with the fighters and it is not possible to separate. This is because they had asked the Prophet about the case which is \"attacking at night\", in which case it is not possible to differentiate, and he permitted them because \"things may be allowed when they occur along the way but be forbidden when separate\".exactly what i was saying.
Quote:Ibn Hazm, commenting on the Hadith that \"Banu Quraidah were paraded before the Prophet, and he ordered the killing of all those who had attained puberty\", said: \"this is a general ruling from the Prophet, since he did not leave out an old man, a merchant, a farmer or any other person; this was related from him with genuine Ijmaa' (Al-Muhallaa vol. 6 p. 299)who narrated the hadith? bukhari? muslim?
Quote:Next you gona say dont attack the army becuase the soliders are doint their job..........LOLno i didnt say that nor will i say that. the police's job is to protect the civilians from themselves. and civilians should not be attacked by us (at least not intentionals). therefor, non of them pose a threat on a muslim army. the only threat comes from the enemy's army and government.
Quote:Brother wake up, the enemy is attacking the muslim, they are raping our women, killing the scholars and imprisoning the muslims, and you are telling me the kuffar want peace........COME ON, WHAT PLANET YOU LIVING IN????i am living in a planet where God has told us to be patient. a planet where each man has an individual brain. where you should wake up and look around and see that not all non-muslims are waiting to eat you. there have been alot of riots around the world against the attack on iraq. just look at how much security Bush had when he visited the UK. because ALOT of the BRITISH, WESTERN, CHRISTIAN <b>PEOPLE</b> were against the Bush's war. each man has an individual brain to think for. just because a government of a nation are an enemy doesnt condemn that whole nations population as the enemy.
take einstien for example. he was a jew and look at what he said:
"My awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power, no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain -- especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks, against which we have already had to fight strongly, even without a Jewish state."
Albert Einstein
Einstein is not only a Jewish Genious. He also was opposed to Israel! but in your mentality. he is still the enemy that should be killed.
Quote:Yes im laughing at them Kuffar, got a problem with that? Look how evil they are and yet they are so arrogant.actualy, yes i do. it shows your ignorance and rudness. they are not evil, only you have been brainwashed to believing they are.
Quote:or btw its Quran and not Qoran.and now, here comes a man that wants to discuss spelling corrections. have you run out of arrguments or are you trying to show your superiority in Grade 3 class?