09-25-2003, 06:01 PM
Quote:<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b>U know better than me that alcohol is not permissible in christiantiy and that Preists claim that what they offer during communion is not an alcoholic wine. So let us not get into that ok.</b>As a matter of fact, I never knew that. I am not a catholic myself but was aware of the catholic ceremony of holy communion where the drinking of wine symbolises the blood of Jesus, I think.
So, we have 2 religions at least that frown upon drinking alcohol. I myself am not religious, therefor, these things are of no concern to me. Why would you be intolerant of me having a couple of beers, a glass wine with dinner and so on.
Quote:<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b></b>As for Saudi Arabia, I wish I lived in a country where alcohol is not allowed in. This never contradicts tolerence. Saudi Arabia is the country where our holy places are in.So, why not move there ? Maybe because the regime there does not allow citizenship ? Isn't the migrant workforce greater than the native citizens ?
Quote:<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b></b> Can the Pope allow a Friday Prayer to be held in pubic in Vatican? I guess not. let us not even take the Vatican, in the US Muslims are not allowed to hold the call for prayer in loud speakers.Looks like I have struck a nerve here and similar to the catholic paranioa, the Muslim paranoia surfaces.
A couple of things though. Why on earth would you want to have a Friday prayer in the vatican ? Would that not show disprepect, intolerance even, of someone elses beliefs ? For example, I would never think to walk around a mosque with my shoes on. Not because Allah commands it but out of respect for people of the mosque.
US muslims are probably not permitted to call for prayer over loudspeakers because of a local ordinance forbidding amplified sounds. This would apply to blaring out Gangsta Rap, the KKK blaring out hate messages and yes, calls to prayer whether it be Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Scientology, the Moonies or whoever and not because of US suppression of Islam. Don't let you paranoia cloud your thoughts. In a multi cultural society, we try and get along. It's a social issue, not a religious one. There is no specific law stopping the call to prayer. You could drive out to the Nevada desert and blare out the call and you would not be arrested. Of course the downside is, no one would hear it but the point is, in built up areas, loud noises are a bit of an inconvenience for the residents. Similarly, nightclubs etc are all strictly controlled by various zoning laws.
Quote:<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b></b> Well, I hope you start focusing on what is not clear to u in Islam rather discussing regimes.And this is what I am looking at. Islam does not seem to be a religion. It actually starts to look like a regime. Particularly when taking into account some of the responses I have had thus far.
Quote:<i>Originally posted by Muslimah </i><b></b>Are u an international relation student, I wonder:confused:No I am not.