09-22-2003, 06:13 AM
HabibHibee, Alhamdulelah I am not a teacher but Allah sobhanhu wa Ta`ala granted me the ability to just try and explain more, specially when it comes to religion, I just use my refrigrator nature:D and really try to reach out to people as much as possible as long as they didn't cross divine boundaries, which u didn't Alhamdulelah. To me u r someone, who is trying to defend his own religion, trying to prove to himself in evey possible way that what those people claim to be the truth and not where I stand is nothing but a collection of nothing. I know this feeling, usually people tend to defend their situation not to discover they may be wrong.
So let us start from fresh, first off honestly speaking, I don't have detailed info on Amina's case. That is why if u noticed I just presented the issue from an Islamic prespective and gave u an example from Sunnah (Prophet's deeds).
I would like to shed more light, the stoning punishment is applied when both parties are married. For they have no execuse to not be able to control their desires, I mean they have the legal means to practice this desire. In case the doers are not married, the punishment then becomes 80 lashes for both parties, again I say for both parties. This is what Allah sobhanhu wa Ta`ala commanded HabibHibee. In case administrations or people fail to apply this properly, it is not the fault of Allah. Again there are Muslims who drink alchol for example, others who don't observe prayer or fasting Ramadan. It is up to the human being HabibHibee. It is our choice to obey or disobey Allah. Allah sat the rules long time ago, in the manual (Quran) He revealed for mankind to operate in the best form. See He is the Creator, He is the Manifacturer. He Knows best how we may function. For us, we say oh no we have brains, we start to deregulate the Divine laws, then regulate what we deregulated. I know u might be saying what a long irrelevant post. Just be patient.
I am not sure if it was on this thread or in another one, that the issue of people being gays must be acceptable.
Well this is what I mean, u deregulated the divine laws accepting men to have sex which each other. Then started calling for the regulation of this deregulated code of asking to allow them marry in church. Why would u care for them to marry any way?
Take this other example, women during the peak of the feminism movement, said a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. Then they choose to be lisbians, live together, and suddenly they want a child. What do they do? They go to a sperm bank. So they need a man and wanting to make a family.
It is only the human nature which is how Allah created us. U know what HabibHibee, even adultry committor knows deep inside that he/she is terribly wrong. This crime is totally against human nature, and when it spreads, the community is surely corrupted.
And of course I agree with the punishment ordained by Allah. And I think I made enough explanation for u to be sure that I fully endorse anything and any where that APPLIES sharia, I wish I live in a country that does.
Oh that was long I pity u:cool: