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John 1
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Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.


Let me also remind you of my responses to your posts.


My response to your post #5 is to be found in post#12 where I said:




Quote:Again, this does not help answering my question at all. I already understood that Jesus is one person (i.e. the second person of the Triune God). But you are saying that he is totally and fully God as well. So in the beginning the son Jesus was there with God, who Himself was God and then later he/God/Jesus became human and died on the Cross.
Can't you see FHC? God Himself died not just the human Jesus.

So your post#5 does not answer my question.


My response to your post#17 is found om post#19




Quote:I don’t argue in my topic about who God is, I only asked who died on the Cross? Jesus the human or the Divine? If only the flesh part that dies, then how come the Word which is God died according to John 14? And if Jesus the divine, then how can he who is according to you eternally Divine simply die?

In your post#21 I replied you with a question to be found in post#23




Quote:Alright, so in short, Jesus died as a whole, including the divine part, is that correct?

But again, you didn’t give me straight forward answer. So after your post#27 I gave up asking you anymore, I said in my post#28




Quote:I think I will stop here and see what everyone else think of this discussion so far

So when finally you gave clear answer in your post#33, I concluded in my post#38 that:




Quote:And so to conclude this topic, i would say that Jesus did not simply die as human being, but also as fully divine/God

But you came with some weird statement in post#39 so I wanted to make sure whether this was a confirmation to my understanding in post#41




Quote:Ok, I did not really understand what you mean by that! Is it a confirmation to my understanding? that (according to you) Jesus died as a complete person, human and God at the same time?

But instead of closing this chapter by straight forward answer, you judged me that I am actually trying to trap you or non Muslims in general, and so my question from your side remains unanswered. I truly appreciate steve’s sincerity in answering my posts, though we have disagreed on almost everything, but he was not wasting time ‘<i>having fun’ </i>as you did.




Quote:I'm not sure If I can further effectively contribute to this discussion.

You have already said what you were told to say in your Church, you just refused to accept any other logic and did not consider the slightest possibility that we might be right in what we are saying.


Salam


Wael

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John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-25-2009, 09:15 AM
John 1 - by Muslimah - 07-25-2009, 09:13 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-27-2009, 09:24 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 07-28-2009, 11:32 AM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 07-28-2009, 01:31 PM
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John 1 - by Muslimah - 07-29-2009, 06:19 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-29-2009, 10:04 PM
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John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-04-2009, 02:26 AM
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John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-04-2009, 03:17 AM
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John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-04-2009, 11:27 AM
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John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-04-2009, 02:25 PM
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John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-07-2009, 02:45 AM
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John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-20-2009, 11:55 AM
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