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John 1
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Quote:It is totally against the divine majesty.
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How would this fit into a godly nature???????

Again, it is not our place to define God, his job, or apply our meager standards of logic and knowledge. Our place is to love, understand and trust God's wisdom.


Was it 'Godly Nature' for Him to make an old man like Abraham a father, and then ask that the child be sacrificed? God is trying to teach us something, and by dwelling on certain particulars, it is very easy to miss the big picture.


Consider the rebuke that Jesus gives to the church elders, who spent all their time discussing such things:




Quote:23"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

Religion is not an automobile of mechanical parts, it is about the Spirit. Trust the Spirit, not reason. Do not get too caught up in the importance of rituals, without being in communion with the Word.


This discussion, regrettably, is not about the Word of God. It is suggested that the Counselor (the Holy Spirit) does not even exist. What I find most interesting, however, is how closely the reasoning here is to the reasoning that atheists claim.


Of course, there was a time when I applied my expectations to God, too. I wanted Him to be something that I could understand. Once you accept that you will never fully understand God, then you will understand Him better. Kind of like Socrates, you become wise (in comparison to your peers) only when you realize that you are not wise. The surety of self-righteousness is a double-edged sword, for if we have expectations of God and others, then we must meet those expectations ourselves. The Spirit gives us insight into our own double-standards (grace). It is not God whom we should be questioning, but our own beliefs. It is the errors in what we believe that separates us from God and one another.

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John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-25-2009, 09:15 AM
John 1 - by Muslimah - 07-25-2009, 09:13 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-27-2009, 09:24 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 07-28-2009, 11:32 AM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 07-28-2009, 01:31 PM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 07-28-2009, 01:53 PM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 07-28-2009, 02:07 PM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 07-29-2009, 03:43 AM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 07-29-2009, 11:15 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 07-29-2009, 12:22 PM
John 1 - by Muslimah - 07-29-2009, 06:19 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-29-2009, 10:04 PM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 07-29-2009, 11:19 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-30-2009, 01:05 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 07-30-2009, 01:54 AM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 07-30-2009, 04:27 AM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 07-30-2009, 04:39 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-30-2009, 04:45 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-30-2009, 04:50 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 07-30-2009, 11:42 AM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 07-30-2009, 12:47 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-30-2009, 09:35 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-30-2009, 09:41 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-30-2009, 09:43 PM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 07-30-2009, 11:19 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-31-2009, 02:07 AM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 07-31-2009, 02:16 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-31-2009, 03:18 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 07-31-2009, 03:32 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 07-31-2009, 08:28 AM
John 1 - by Muslimah - 07-31-2009, 11:02 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 07-31-2009, 11:44 AM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 07-31-2009, 01:48 PM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 07-31-2009, 02:14 PM
John 1 - by Muslimah - 08-01-2009, 07:10 PM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-01-2009, 07:25 PM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 08-02-2009, 05:17 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-03-2009, 02:44 AM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 08-03-2009, 02:59 AM
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John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 08-03-2009, 03:28 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-03-2009, 04:35 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-03-2009, 04:44 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-03-2009, 05:07 AM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 08-03-2009, 10:18 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-03-2009, 11:03 AM
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John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-03-2009, 09:18 PM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-03-2009, 09:27 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-03-2009, 09:53 PM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-03-2009, 10:50 PM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 08-04-2009, 01:43 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-04-2009, 01:50 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-04-2009, 02:26 AM
John 1 - by Faith Hope Charity - 08-04-2009, 02:39 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-04-2009, 03:17 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-04-2009, 03:19 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-04-2009, 11:27 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-04-2009, 01:32 PM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-04-2009, 02:25 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-05-2009, 08:17 AM
John 1 - by Muslimah - 08-05-2009, 10:37 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-05-2009, 03:10 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-06-2009, 01:39 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-06-2009, 02:44 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-06-2009, 08:26 AM
John 1 - by Muslimah - 08-06-2009, 10:36 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-06-2009, 10:46 AM
John 1 - by SisterJennifer - 08-06-2009, 12:04 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-07-2009, 01:11 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-07-2009, 02:45 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-07-2009, 02:45 AM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-07-2009, 03:04 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-07-2009, 03:51 AM
John 1 - by Muslimah - 08-07-2009, 08:47 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-11-2009, 04:37 PM
John 1 - by wel_mel_2 - 08-12-2009, 02:03 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-12-2009, 02:19 AM
John 1 - by Muslimah - 08-12-2009, 03:47 PM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-12-2009, 04:05 PM
John 1 - by Muslimah - 08-13-2009, 09:33 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-13-2009, 01:14 PM
John 1 - by Muslimah - 08-19-2009, 08:53 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-19-2009, 12:31 PM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-20-2009, 05:09 AM
John 1 - by Muslimah - 08-20-2009, 07:57 AM
John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-20-2009, 11:55 AM
John 1 - by Muslimah - 08-22-2009, 07:34 AM
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John 1 - by Steve Consilvio - 08-22-2009, 01:27 PM
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