05-03-2009, 03:35 PM
Wael,
By mentioning Matthew 13:17, are you likening the muslim to these righteous men who desired to see the coming of the Messiah? If that is so, where is your cross?
Matthew 16:24
(24) Then Jesus said to His disciples, If anyone desires to be My disciple, let him deny himself [disregard, lose sight of, and forget himself and his own interests] and take up his cross and follow Me [cleave steadfastly to Me, conform wholly to My example in living and, if need be, in dying, also].
"BUT...the disciples could not understand the core belief of today's form of Christianity, and that is the death and resurrection of their LORD."
And now you twist the Scripture to fit your own desire. That is not what that verse is speaking about. It's talking about those righteous men who lived before; Abraham, Solomon, David, Isaiah, who longed to see the coming of the Messiah.
What was mentioned in Luke, was written before Acts 2, and when the Holy Spirit was given they then understood clearly why Jesus was crucified. So yes, I understand, and they understand too.
They didn't understand because in their misunderstanding of prophecy, given to them by the Pharisees, they were looking for a warrior king like David. They did not understand his first coming to be that of a sacrifice.
No, I'm not better, I have the advantage of being able to read what they've written AFTER the Holy Spirit was given to them and they understood.
I didn't say anything about worshiping Jesus, only that Jesus is the only way, only truth, and only way to eternal life with the Father.
Wael, and as said in the other thread, true, you wouldn't have affection for that person, but if that person, at the time they were near you had a need, we, as followers of Jesus Christ, are commanded to meet that need. It has nothing to do with mental illness, like I said, it's about showing undeserved mercy and compassion, the same that was shown for us.
As far as their words not being original....that is something I will not accept. And no, I wouldn't take the word of so-called scholars as proof.