11-24-2008, 09:52 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-24-2008, 09:56 AM by Infoseeker.)
Salaam to all my brothers and sister
Firstly many thanks for your reply sister Radiyah and sister Muslimah , allahumtho-llia , what a great reply back and what a great lively debate it is.
Okay secondaly to all those who are reading this. I am replying back from work so i have to be careful that no one is going to tell me off , as you know in UK we have this work policy about internet useage at work.
Sister Radiyah What I ment to say was that I felt at some point in this tread that we were about to kick off a new debate about sec's and I did not wanted to debate on this subject in this tread. I am also fully aware that the prophet used to use lantern and thanks for clearing this too. Like sister Muslimah said , sometime we do forget of the condition that we live in.
Okay Sister Muslimah , and sister Radiyah I once again stress with out any shame , I don't follow my parents beleive which is barelvi who strongly beleive in the lineage of the prophet in the sense that who ever come's up to them can claim to be a lineage they would simple fall for this. now as my parent and my Allah guide them is truely a blessing from Allah that I have not followed that path. i love m folks and i could only tell them and explain to them that this type of Lineage is wrong , special where people who claim Lineage also claim they can tell the further and provent black magic , jinn and so forth.
Sister Muslimah when these people came to my house they all sit down , women in one room and men in the other room. / this Biree person who claim lineage , ask for a speark connect to the women side so they too can hear his speech.
He started off with explaining how to perform Dhikr
in a nutshell he said when we say Allah 0000000000000000000000 it should come out out with slow speed and a deep relaxing tone
he said turn the lights off and no matter what happens no one is to turn the lights on until the dhua is made and is over with.
and like I said even I was in tears when he went into the death process and started to ask us all to imagine that we were dead and that the Angle of death came to us and so forth.
What prompt me to ask the question about Zar is that I was reading a book call "The Jinn and Human sickeness by DR. Abul'-Mundhir Khaleel ibn Ibraaheem ameen ISBN 9960-732-44-4 and it mention that Zar is if a group of people sat down and do a type of Dhikr in a unformally way its a form of Zar
I shall later on post that quote from him.
so sisters and brothers we sat down and did this dhikr