11-24-2008, 03:14 AM
Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.
<b>Shamms</b>
Quote:Wael, then we can end this discussion here. Jesus Christ is unique because he is the only begotten Son of God. Object all you like, disagree all you like. The Bible writers were clear in their choosing of Monogenes to describe Christ.
Yes they were clear of choosing Monogenes to describe Jesus, however, the Bible translators were <b>NOT</b> that clear or were not properly inspired by the Holy Ghost to translate the word as BEGOTTEN!!!!, what does it mean to you when almost <b>ALL available Bibles today does not have the word begotten?</b>
Quote:While I know I cannot teach a muslim their religion, the same is true for the Christian. You cannot teach me mine. So if you notice I hardly ever reply to posts outside the "Discussion of Beliefs" area. I understand you know your religion, but you do not know mine.
<b>Who told you in the first place that we have started a new school to ‘teach’ Christians their religion?</b> We do not teach them, what actually I am doing is analyzing the Christian Bible and presenting my own understanding of the text, you either provide a logical explanation, refutable argument or you can just say as you said earlier to me “<b>OBJECT ALL YOU LIKE, DISAGREE ALL YOU LIKE</b>” which shows how complicated the matter for you to explain.
Quote:In this chapter the idolatries of Israel and Judah are represented under the metaphor of two harlots, and their lewdness.
I guess you did misunderstand the question of sister Muslimah, we do not object the <i>MESSAGE</i> of that chapter, <b>we are against the use of inappropriate language and terms which can never be inspired by God the Creator.</b>
As regards to “<i>reading these materials to your children with guidance</i>”… do you mean that you might also rent some pornographic magazines and video tapes to show them to your children to teach them the evil of unlawful sexual intercourse? and while watching with them for "<b>guidance</b>"you may say: “<i>Hey kids, do not commit fornication or adultery, this is wrong, God does not like that what you see and read</i>” ???? What guidance are you talking about? Would any sane person do such thing? <b>These types of stories will definitely leave an impact on the children’s minds!!!</b>
Will you for example, allow your children <b>to act that event of Ezikel 23 in their school as an educational play word for word as recorded in that chapter?</b>
We Muslims also have got some metaphoric stories to teach our kids certain lessons, but <i>SIZES</i> and <i>HORSES</i> etc, there is no point at all for God to <b>go out of His way to reveal to us such thing</b>!!
And for your information, this chapter was banned by South African Government years ago and they recognized it as pornography book.
Quote:I'm not trying to be a spokesperson per se, but what I am doing, by the Grace of God, is providing correct answers according to Scripture.
Ok then could you please answer why the word begotten was removed by your scholars from almost all Bibles? because for every translation you may provide where the word begotten is mentioned in John 3:16, I can show you <b>10 different versions of your Bible where the word begotten is not used at all</b>.
Salam
Wael.