Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum sister,
Sis Radiyah, allow me please to jump in and respond to AlShamms...
<b>'AlShamms' </b>
Quote:John 3:18
(18) No one who has faith in God's Son will be condemned. But everyone who doesn't have faith in him has already been condemned for not having faith in God's only Son.
Since you do not believe that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God, you are, according to the Bible, condemned already. No one is attacking you, I'm only informing you of what the Bible says.
According to the Bible <b>SON</b> means <b>SERVANT</b>… and that’s why in different translations of the Bible these terms were used <b>synonymously</b>, for example we read:
<b>King James Version</b>
Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
<b>New King James Version SAME VERSE</b>
Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.
Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities.
In the KJV, we find that Jesus is God's Son. In the NKJV, we find that He is God's servant. These are clearly not the same! <b>Unless they are synonymous!!!!</b>
Or maybe you can say, that those who come up with the NKJV translation <b>denied the deity of Jesus and that’s why they used the word SERVANT instead of SON!!!</b> And so did the translators of NIV, ASV, NASB and other modern translations???
But look, the same translators of the NKJV translated this Greek word <b>PAIS</b> as BOY, CHILD and SON in other places like Mathew 2:16, 17:18 etc… <b>but they refused intentionally to translate the SAME GREEK WORD as SON where peter was presenting Jesus as the Messiah and son of God!!!! </b>
I wonder, why the translators were so determined to deny the deity of Jesus in this specific passage? Is this the Bible that you are claiming to be God’s word??? or is it a book that you can trust with your eternal destiny? i wonder!!!!!!!!
So we as Muslims do not hesitate in accepting Jesus “<b>the servant of God</b>” as the Bible (NKJV) indicated… but to say he is BEGOTTEN son of God, it is a blasphemy of the highest order, because the word begotten means <b>to have sex and produce</b>, and if you read <b>YOUR BIBLE AGAIN</b> you will realize that this is what it means.
<b>Mathew 1 </b>
1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
1:2 Abraham begat
(<b>have sex and produce</b>) Isaac; and Isaac begat
(<b>have sex and produce</b>) Jacob; and Jacob begat
(<b>have sex and produce</b>) Judas and his brethren;
1:3 And Judas begat
(<b>have sex and produce</b>) Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat
(<b>have sex and produced</b>) Esrom; and..............
And on and on… according to the language of your book of God, <b>begotten means to have sex and produce</b>, no matter how hard you try to say that <i>this is not what it means</i> in the case of Jesus, then you should have used another term to describe the case.
Plus the term <b>SON OF GOD</b> came form pagan Greek origin, so you should not be so proud of it.
Also from Hebrew sources you can read:
Quote:"In the Hebrew Bible Israel is both a man (Jacob, the son of Isaac) and the nation that descended from him.
Because of the shared name and organic identity, God speaks to the nation as though he were a single person. Israel is, in fact, God's son (Exod 4:22 — beni vechori yisrael; Deut 14:1 — banim atem l'Adonai; Jer 31:9 — ki hayiti le'yisrael le'av; Hosea 11:1 — mimitzrayim qarati livni).
Israel's Father nurtures him to grow up and become a worshiping servant (Exod 4:23 — "Let my son go that he may serve me")."
http://www.hebrew-streams.org/works/hebr...donai.html
Clearly we can see that when Israel became God’s son, <b>he reached to the stage of being God’s servant</b>, and this is really what it means, not <i>BEGOTTEN.</i>
Quote:It's not a matter of knowing the future Radiyah, I am speaking, according to your words here, about where you stand with Christ now. You're correct, no one knows the future, and perhaps Yahovah will give you repentance to the acknowledging of the truth (2nd Timothy 2:25,26).
Can you show me a <b>SINGLE</b> verse in the entire New Testament where JEHOVAH’S name is mentioned? Since you are quoting the NT and using Jehovah’s name, then i would like to read his name ANYWHERE in the NT!!!!
but let me save your time, because i've done my homework and here is the result...
Quote:Verse Search Results (New International Version)
Your search query for 'Jehovah' did not return any results. Please modify your search query and try again.
CrossWalk.com
Quote:While in your book, allah does not have a son, he begets not. So no, it is not simply the same God and a difference of belief.
We have already established that SON means SERVANT so your God and ours is the same... not only that but YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIANS confirmed what am saying.
Quote:Your book and my book teach two very different fundamental things. My Bible teaches that Salvation can only be obtained through Jesus Christ, who being God, took the form of a man, and was crucified for the sins of his sheep. I do not wish to pray to your god and offend my own. You say I am like the Najran Christians, I do not know who they were but if they did not turn from the truth that is Jesus Christ, then it sounds like good company to be in.
All these issues we have dealt with before in which we have provided evidences Alhamdulelah that Jesus is not God, nor His "literal" son and that he did not die as the Christian thought... so no need to repeat the same stories again... this is just the invention of ONE branch of Christianity, but the fact is that there were MANY forms of CHRISTIANITIES after the departure of Jesus, and many of them do not support your beliefs, and YES they call themselves the TRUE CHRISTIANS.
Salam
Wael.