05-14-2008, 09:22 AM
Bismillah
Karbala, so do I respect your viewpoint and that is why I continue conversing with you. I didnt mean what you go. Any way.
Well, let me explain to your further, first off, your argument cannt stand because as you yourself explained, Muta does not involve any financial obligations on the husband. Further it might apply even without sexual contact. Thus, building on the word اسْتَمْتَعْتُم بِهِ which establishes a rule of paying a deffered dowry cannt be valid here.
Karbala, Alah's Words are endless. Allah Uses different words to refer to the same meaning specially when it comes to the sexual relation. As Allah Is Hayee (The All Shy). For example, in Quran 2:222
وَيَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الْمَحِيضِ قُلْ هُوَ أَذًى فَاعْتَزِلُواْ النِّسَاء فِي الْمَحِيضِ وَلاَ تَقْرَبُوهُنَّ حَتَّىَ يَطْهُرْنَ فَإِذَا تَطَهَّرْنَ فَأْتُوهُنَّ مِنْ حَيْثُ أَمَرَكُمُ اللّهُ إِنَّ اللّهَ يُحِبُّ التَّوَّابِينَ وَيُحِبُّ الْمُتَطَهِّرِينَ
وَلاَ تَقْرَبُوهُنَّ
فَأْتُوهُنَّ
"They ask you concerning menstruation. Say: that is an Adha (a harmful thing for a husband to have a sexual intercourse with his wife while she is having her menses), therefore keep away from women during menses and go not unto them till they have purified (from menses and have taken a bath). And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allah has ordained for you (go in unto them in any manner as long as it is in their vagina). Truly, Allah loves those who turn unto Him in repentance and loves those who purify themselves (by taking a bath and cleaning and washing thoroughly their private parts, bodies, for their prayers, etc.)."
نِسَآؤُكُمْ حَرْثٌ لَّكُمْ فَأْتُواْ حَرْثَكُمْ أَنَّى شِئْتُمْ وَقَدِّمُواْ لأَنفُسِكُمْ وَاتَّقُواْ اللّهَ وَاعْلَمُواْ أَنَّكُم مُّلاَقُوهُ وَبَشِّرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ<b></b>
Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth (have sexual relations with your wives in any manner as long as it is in the vagina and not in the anus), when or how you will, and send (good deeds, or ask Allah to bestow upon you pious offspring) before you for your ownselves. And fear Allah, and know that you are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give good tidings to the believers (O Muhammad).
Can you see Karbala, those two Ayah deal with rulings of the sexual relation between a husband and wife including when to abstain, how to approach it, ..etc. But because as I said Allah Is The All shy, and also if sea water was ink to serve the words of Allah, sea water would finish but not the Words of Allah. Thus, Allah Uses different words to refer to the same meaning according to context. Touching and approaching here refers to the sexual relation which is a source of pleasure. Pleasure is Mutaa. Thus, taking your presentation in consideration that Muta marriage does not involve any financial responsibilities, will help you understand the word. Estamtaum behen, meaning married to them and having pleasure with them in marriage. When you divorce them, give them Aujur (deferred dowry).
The other two positions Mata (asset) meaning accomodation and the other establishes also the deffered dowry which is granted to the woman as consolation.