Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.
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as salam alykom Wael welcome back.
Let me try and clear some confusion here, wael if you agree with Shamms
Who said that we are talking about any male intervention when the birth of Jesus Christ is our topic
Then you cannt say that
in other words, <b>it was HE WHO IMPREGNATE HIS OWN MOTHER</b>.
Are you getting the point, if you agree to the first point then you will be contradicting yourself to say the second.
There is no contradiction here sister, you just didn't get my point clearly :) . i am sure it was my fault.
Of course I do agree with the first point (i.e. Christians do not believe that Jesus' birth has anything to do with male intervention) but yet <b>the language that was used by the authors of the Bible shows us something entirely different</b>. Are you now getting what am trying to say?
Let me clarify further.
The Bible says in Mathew 1:18
<b>before they came together, ( Joseph and Mary as husband and wife) she was found with child of the holy ghost."</b>
<b>side note please; the child here is OF THE HOLY GHOST, which indicates that Jesus is the son of the Holy Ghost too, and not only the Son of God the father.
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Anyways, according to Deedat's book "Christ in Islam" regarding the above verse he said:
Quote:The eminent Billy Graham from the United States of America dramatized this verse in front of 40,000 people in King Park, Durban, with his index finger sticking out and swinging his outstretched arm from right to left, he said: <b>"And the Holy Ghost came and impregnated Mary!</b>" On the other hand St. Luke tells us the very same thing but less crudely. He says, that when the annunciation was made, Mary was perturbed.
Alhamdulelah, it was not only me who used this word "impregnate" with regards to Jesus' birth, but Billy Graham, one of the most populars Christian scholars agreed with me.
Now back to the point that am trying to highlight here, which is the language of the Bible that proves to me at least <b>that God Almighty did not inspire any of the authors of the Bible to write down God's words as claimed by the Christians.</b>
Ahmed Deedat also said in the same book, "Christ in Islam" after quoting the Qur'anic verses concerning Jesus' birth.
Quote:<b>"She said: O my Lord! how shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" (3:47)</b>
He said (the angel says in reply): 'Even so: Allah (God) createth what He willeth: when He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!' " (3:47)
This is the Muslim concept of the birth of Jesus. <b>For God to create a Jesus, without a human father, He merely has to will it. If He wants to create a million Jesus' without fathers or mothers, He merely wills them into existence.</b>
God doesn't need to send His Holy Ghost to <b>COME UPON MARY </b>in order for Jesus to be born, this is what I cannot accept at all, plus I am not saying anything new here, the concept of God's creation is to be found in Genesis 1:3 <b>And God said, Let there be light: and there was light</b>., He does not need to connect any plug in order to have light, He just said to the Light <b>BE</b> and it was, and so the concept of Jesus' birth in the Qur'an is much more accurate and reasonable than the Bible.
I hope that was clear insh a Allah.
Salam
Wael.