12-28-2007, 11:40 PM
Peace.....
Wael, I have to say we agree on this point..........
Quote:Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.
<b>We are talking about the earthly language of the Bible which makes us understand the concept of Jesus' birth in that sense</b>, and this is one of the reasons why I don't believe in the Bible to be God's word.
My thought was about Jesus and the Holy Ghost being ONE in nature, and that Jesus was THERE since time immemorial as Christian claims, and so <i>it was he who visited his mother to announce the birth of the Holy one</i>, in other words, <b>it was HE WHO IMPREGNATE HIS OWN MOTHER</b>. This is my observation to the whole situation, although you believe that the son Jesus and the Ghost are separate persons, <b>but yet you still believe that they ARE ONE GOD, </b> and that's why i keep on asking, are they ONE OR NOT? but no one is giving me straight forward answer!!!
Salam
Wael.
And that being the language the Bible has been transliterated into is indeed a corrupt language, it has length and width, but no depth of meaning. Which is why it is always important to go back to the original languages the Bible was first written in; Hebrew and Greek. Once you define the Hebrew and Greek, we can get the exact meaning of God's word in the Bible.
As to your second point, Yes Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one in nature, in that they have the nature of Jehovah God, which is why you hear christians profess, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. However there are three persons, it is what is called a mystery. No verse IMO better shows Jesus' divinity in relation to both Jehovah and the Holy Spirit than in Paul's letter to the believers in Philipi:
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth;
And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
(Philipians 2:5-11)
I hope this makes my position a little more clear
Shamms