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Quote:Umm Salama says: I saw Husayn (a) sitting in the lap of his grandfather, the
Prophet (s), who had a red block of soil in his hand. The Prophet (s) was


kissing the dust and weeping. I asked him what that soil was. The Prophet


(s) said: "Gabriel has informed me that my son, this Husayn, will be


murdered in Iraq. He has brought this earth for me from that land. I am


weeping for the suffering that will befall my Husayn." Then the Prophet (s)


handed the dust to Umm Salama and said to her: "When you see this soil


turn into blood, you will know that my Husayn has been slaughtered." Umm


Salama kept the soil in a bottle and kept watch over it until she saw on the


day of Ashura, 10th of Muharram 61 A.H., that it turned to blood. Then she


knew that Husayn bin Ali (a) had been martyred.


[al-Hakim, al-Mustadrak, vol. 4, p. 398]


[al-Dhahabi, Siyar a`lam al-nubala', vol. 3, p. 194]


[ibn Kathir, al-Bidayah wa'l-nihayah, vol. 6, p. 230]


[al-Suyuti, Khasa'is al-kubra, vol. 2, p. 450; Jam` al-Jawami, vol. 1, p. 26]


[ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Tahdhib al-tahdhib , vol. 2, p. 346]

I was at a bookstore today and found a copy of Siyar A'laam Al-Nubala. I looked for the hadeeth online, but I could not find it. So I decided to make sure if this was authentic or not.


First of all, this part of the hadeeth doesn't exist:




Quote:Umm Salama kept the soil in a bottle and kept watch over it until she saw on the day of Ashura, 10th of Muharram 61 A.H., that it turned to blood. Then she knew that Husayn bin Ali (a) had been martyred.

This is not included in the hadeeth.




Quote:Note the Prophet(Saw) kissed the dust from Karbala.

That is also false. The hadeeth doesn't mention anything about the Prophet (pbuh) kissing the <i>turbah.</i> Yet, what it does say is that he was flipping it over.


It is very possible for whoever quoted it to make this mistake. The reason is that the two words look really similar in Arabic,


1- He flipped it over: Yu-qa-li-buha


2- He kissed it: Yu-qa-bi-luha


Adding onto that, the hadeeth is not even authentic. =p


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Anyways, Karbala, you didn't answer my question. When you mentioned that the <i>turbah</i> from Karbala is sacred, I replied with:




Quote:I'm not aware of this. Can you please provide me with one of <b>your</b> authentic hadeeths that establishes this. Also please provide the source of the hadeeth and the book that establishes the authenticity of this hadeeth.

Providing it from our sources is a stretch. I really doubt that it is something that can be established. That is why I ask you to provide it from <b>your</b> own sources.


Please don't forget the name of the book that establishes it's authenticity. Thanks.


By the way, I am willing to take pictures of the hadeeth in Siyar A'alaam Al Nubala if you have your doubts.




Quote:Granted I have copied and pasted this from another website.

I give your website a -1/10. =p

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