10-08-2007, 02:36 AM
Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.
Quote:1. On your first point: Although the Father and the Holy Spirit are made of spirit, they take on different forms of a spirit, just as Jesus took on the form of a human, made of flesh and bone. However, he also has a divine nature, seen in his ability to heal the sick, forgive sins, and rise form the dead, thus he shares the common divine nature that all three persons of the Trinity possess, making him God.
I guess brother Hadji already responded to this point, which proves that <b>none of Jesus' miracles were unique </b> according to the Bible, <b>and none of them prove that he was divine. </b>
Quote:2. On your second point: Jesus also shares human habits. He chose to eat to survive, for if he did not eat how could we claim that he was a man. In order to show his third person he had to show his human nature and assimilate with humans, and did so by eating earthly food in order to survive. Nevertheless, while he did eat food, he did rise from the dead, an action only God can perform, showing his divine common quality with God the father and Holy Spirit.
It seems now that everything is clear, Jesus <b>shares</b> divine attributes, and <b>shares</b> human habits, but amazingly you're still telling me that Jesus is <b>FULLY</b> God and <b>FULLY</b> human. How is it possible for one who is <b>FULLY GOD </b> to share His own attributes as God with somebody else? the moment God shares His qualities with somebody else, He is no longer <b>FULLY GOD</b>.
Quote:3. On you third point: Firstly, Jesus is not a component of water, he is a form H2O (water) can take.
When Jesus died both his body and spirit were still existent, his body had merely performed a human function, showing his human nature, that he died. However, the flesh and bones were still existent, and so was his spirit and divine nature. As seen in the Apostles Creed which states after he died that “He descended into hell”. The existance of his divine nature is still evident as he rose from the dead. So in order to show that Jesus had been removed and hence no more God, you must show that both his human and divine nature ceased to exist.
Well, we don't really argue much about Jesus being dead or alive, <b>we believe that he is alive alive alive</b>. The argument here is about Trinity which makes no sense according to the analogies Christian gives. I advise you to read the thread "<b>Jesus and Jonah</b>" to get more information about Jesus being dead or alive in the heart of the earth.
Salam
Wael.