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Ask a Shia

Hey folks, long time no see.


Karbala, I've noticed a few questions that I haven't answered in the past. I guess I might have just overlooked them.




Quote:Hakim Nishapuri claims to use the same methodology as Bukhari and Muslim in his Mustadrak Ala Sahihain yet his work is not included in the 6 Sihah Sittah books.

Well, first of all, Bukhari and Muslim didn't have the same methodology in collecting hadeeths. Mohammed ibn Ismael was stricter with his pre-requisites when it came to judging which hadeeth is saheeh. That is why Al Bukhari's book is often called "the most authentic book after the Qur'an". So, it is not seen as a tie between his book and Imam Muslim's. Secondly, there is no such thing as Sihah Sittah. Sunan Al-Tarmithi, Ibn Majah, Abi Dawood, Al-Nisai have a lot of weak hadeeths. Therefore, we don't refer to their books as the "sihah", but rather, the "sunan". While Saheeh Muslim and Bukhari are called Al Saheehain (the two Saheehs).


Anyways, I'm not too familiar with Al-Hakim Al-Nisapuri's work, but even if one attempts to use the methodology of Al Bukhari, that doesn't make his work completely authentic. I am aware of a lot of hadeeths in Al-Hakim's book that are weak. That itself makes his book "not completely authentic".


Karbala, I've known of these verses for quite a while, and I was wondering if you've ever really looked into the word choice of Allah (swt).


الروم (آية:32): من الذين فرقوا دينهم وكانوا شيعا كل حزب بما لديهم فرحون The Romans


"Of those who split up their religion and became schismatics, each sect exulting in its tenets."


الانعام (آية:159): ان الذين فرقوا دينهم وكانوا شيعا لست منهم في شيء انما امرهم الى الله ثم ينبئهم بما كانوا يفعلون Cattle


"Lo! As for those who sunder their religion and become schismatics, no concern at all hast thou with them. Their case will go to Allah, Who then will tell them what they used to do."


Of course, one could always argue that I'm taking the verse out of context, but just why the word "Shiya'a"? Why not "firqa", etc...?!


Aren't the Shi'ites today fasting a day after the Sunnis? Aren't they praying in different mosques? Aren't they praying after the Sunnis by five to ten minutes? I think the verses fit pretty well.


Your thoughts?

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