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[Karbala]

حدثنا ابن حميد، قال: ثنا يحيى بن واضح، قال: ثنا الأصبغ، عن علقمة، قال: كان عكرمة ينادي فـي السوق: { إنَّـمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِـيُذْهِبَ عَنْكُمُ الرّجْسَ أهْلَ البَـيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيراً } قال: نزلت فـي نساء النبـيّ صلى الله عليه وسلم خاصة.
According to some of the companions the verse specifically talks about the wives of the Prophet (pbuh).

And you believe them? Even though you know that Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussain are part of AhlulBayt? This same Akramah character is quoted in Ibn Kathir:


"It was revealed solely concerning the wives of the Prophet .'' `Ikrimah said: "Whoever disagrees with me that it was revealed solely concerning the wives of the Prophet , I am prepared to meet with him and pray and invoke the curse of Allah upon those who are lying.'' So they alone were the reason for revelation, but others may be included by way of generalization.


http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=33&tid=41607


Isnt that amazing! Not only is he wrong for saying that it was <b>"revealed solely concerning the wives of the Prophet"</b> he goes further and says <b>"I am prepared to meet with him and pray and invoke the curse of Allah upon those who are lying.''</b> What can I say. You should know that this same Akramah was a Kharijiite who used to go around killing muslims. Not a very reliable person is he?

The verse has nothing to do with sinlessness.

Many sunni Tafseer says that it is talking about purification from "Dhunoob" or "Ithm" or sin.


Ibn Abbas


{ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيـراً } من الذنوب


http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhN...s&UserProfile=0


Samarqandi


{ وَيُطَهّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيــراً } يعني: من الإثم والذنوب


http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhN...s&UserProfile=0


etc etc.


Why do you ignore hadith al-Kisa narrated by Umm Salma which you can find in Tirmidhi, Durr al-Manthoor, Tabari and Musnad Ahmad which clearly shows that the wives werent included.


I also cant see how one can reject other hadiths which mention the word 5 with regards to AhlulBayt in this verse e.g. in Tabari


" نَزَلَتْ هَذِهِ الآيَةُ فِـي خَمْسَةٍ: فِـيّ، وفِـي علـيّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ، وَحَسَنٍ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ، وَحُسَيْنٍ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ، وَفـاطِمَةَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْها " { إنَّـمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِـيُذْهِبَ عَنْكُمُ الرّجْسَ أهْلَ البَـيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيراً }.


http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhN...s&Page=4&Size=1


Why do you reject Zaid ibn Arqam who clearly says in Sahih Muslim that the wives are not included in AhlulBayt in this verse?


<b>Aren't the wives (of the Holy Prophet) included amongst the members of his house hold? Thereupon he said: No, by Allah, a woman lives with a man (as his wife) for a certain period; he then divorces her and she goes back to her parents and to her people; the members of his household include his ownself and his kith and kin (who are related to him by blood) and for him the acceptance of Zakat is prohibited.</b>


One last question. Lets assume this verse includes the wives and the Propet (saw). If this verse isn't about sinlessness this means that the wives of the Prophet are purified to the same level as the Prophet (saw). So either the wives are infallible or the Prophet(saw) is not infallible.


I dont think I will discuss this topic any more. Inshallah maybe we can agree to just disagree and move on to the next topic.