07-01-2007, 10:39 PM
In His Name the Most High,
Salam,
Quote:The word Ahl is used in many location to refer to wife as in: Taha: 10 and 55, Anbiya: 84, Sad: 43 and Naml:7
I have read those verses and I dont think any of those verses are talking about wives.
Quote:67. O Messenger (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم)! Proclaim (the Message) which has been sent down to you from your Lord. And if you do not, then you have not conveyed His Message. Allâh will protect you from mankind. Verily, Allâh guides not the people who disbelieve.
Can you explain why this Ayah means that Ahlulbayt arent Ma'soom?
Quote:Again on the Ayahs of Al Ahzab, if u look carefully it starts by describing the wives of the Messenger as not like any other women. Isnt this enough to convey what their rank is???? Besides they are not supposed to be married after his death, does this apply to any other women?? certainly not.
Indeed the wives of the Prophet(saw) were different from normal people. I am not trying to question the status of the wives of the Prophet. i am just saying they are not included in AhlulBayt.
This is clear from Hadith al-Kisa which is narrated from Umm Salma where she asks if she could enter the Kisa and be part of AhlulBayt the Prophet(Saw) replies "You remain in your position and you are toward a good ending."
You can find it in Durr al-Manthur by Suyuti
http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhN...s&Page=4&Size=1
Jami'Al Bayan Fi Tafsir alQuran by Al-Tabari
http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhN...s&Page=5&Size=1
Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal Number 25300
http://www.al-eman.com/hadeeth/viewchp.a...CID=147#s1
There are so many other Sunni works which clearly say that the verse 33:33 was only revealed for the Prophet, Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussain.
Jami'Al Bayan Fi Tafsir alQuran by Al-Tabari
http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhN...s&Page=4&Size=1
Al-Mustadrak by al-Hakim
http://www.mekkaoui.net/ar/hadit/mostadrak/12004.htm
Quote:As u explained to me that part of the foundation of the faith is to believe in Imamah who has to be of the Ahlu bayt. In such case, do u mean that all those from Ahul bayt who live among us today, they are many, are infallible????
No the only ma'sooms recognised by Shia are the 14 Ma'soom including the Prophet, Ali, Fatima, Hassan, Hussain and the 9 Imams from the lineage of Hussain. These are the only people who can be called AhlulBayt of the Prophet(saw).