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Quote: The word Ahl in Arbaic is used in particular to refer to the wife

Muslimah i know your teaching me arabic but the student will have to disagree with the teacher.


"Ahl" has been used in a number of senses in the Quran. e.g.


Ahl alKitab People of the Book


Ahlahu as in people of a city (2:126)


Ahl alInjeel People of Injeel (5:47)


etc etc.


Ahl can therefore have a general meaning to include all the people of a book, city or country which can include the wives etc etc. Similary AhlulBayt simply refers to the people of a dwelling.


However when we talk about Prophets the meaning becomes very very specific. To be included in the Ahl of a Prophet one must be 1. Related by blood and 2. Pious.


Hence we find that Noahs son is not counted as his "Ahl" since he was a doer of bad deeds


[sura Hud (11) : Verse 46] He said: O Nuh! surely he is not of your family; surely he is (the doer of) other than good deeds,


Earlier Hadji posted an objection in the form of a couple of verses 7:83 and 27:57




Quote:7:83 Thereupon We saved him and his household except his wife, who was among those that stayed behind
27:57 Thereupon We saved him and his household - all but his wife, whom We willed to be among those that stayed behind

I dont think this verse is counting the wife as Ahl of Lut. It simply says that his "Ahl" was saved and his wife was left behind.


Consider the following verse where the same word "Illa" is used.


2:34 And when We said to the angels: Make obeisance to Adam they did obeisance, but (Illa) Iblis. He refused and he was proud, and he was one of the unbelievers.


Now the angels are the subject of the verse and the exception is Iblees. But Iblees is not an anglel! Hence the word "Illa" does not necessarily include the exception (Luts wife or Iblees).


Hence a better translation for 7:83 or 27:57 would be Thereupon we saved him and his household, not so his wife who was among those left behind.

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