05-28-2007, 11:13 AM
Quote:Bismillah
The Quran <b>cannot</b> be translated, in Islam u r not allowed to do so,
Salam mate
Sorry, who said that it is not allowed to translate the Quran?
I hope it is not some sort of a Fatwa by a human making it haram
Quote:u translate only the meaning of The Quran,
Wouldn't that mean translating the Quran?
well, logically speaking:
Translating the meaning of the Quran = Translating the Quran
I really can't see any difference
Quote: if this is what u mean okay, but if u want to translate word by word u cannot for the following reasons:
What I meant that translating the Quran is equal to translating the meaning of the Quran (logically speaking)
Quote:First: u can never get the same Translation that Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'la wanted.
And who suggested that this is what I want to get?
my objective is to make the Arabic Quran understood bt those young Muslims who knows nothing about Arabic, this is going to happen to the best of my knowledge not to the best of Allah knowledge because I don't now Allah knoweldge neither those who want to translate the meaning of the Quran
Quote:Second: the arabic language is very rich that u cannot find exact words that are in the Quran in english or any other language that exists in this world,
I agree with that, an example is the word "Muttaqeen", and sure there will be notes to explain it to them, at the end of the day if there is an equevlent english word for any arabic word, I will use, if not I will explain it in a sentence
Quote:which will make u substitute other words which will change the meaning,
Why you are suggesting that there will be change in meaning?
if there will be then it means that I already understand the meaning of the Arabic wrong. Makes sense?
Quote:and u will not be better than others in misleading the new muslim generation.
hmmmm, that was an uncalled for comment to be honest, it really made no sense to me, sorry
Quote: Third: to translate u must be a professional arabic linguistic who is a professional english linguistic as well,
Hmmm again, well I have no problem with your arabic prequestics however yes I'm not a fluent English speaker, but that should not be a problem because I won't be given lessons in the English language rather making the Arabic quran understood by those who dont speak Arabiv and without misleading them
Who do you think is qualified to do it out of the following three:
1) Yusuf Ali
2) Pikthal
3) Shakir
??
and even if u are u cannot bring the exact meaning
why is that?
I mean, if I understand the meaning in Arabic, why you are suggesting that I will fail to express that meaning in another language that I know it well enough?
Quote: Fourth: u must have Ilm in The Quran, specially Ilm of Tafseer,
Hmm, and how do you know that I dont posses that?
I think it is something that Allah only knows because He is the only one Who gives that knowledge, right?
Quote: and u must have a certified certificate from Azhar or any certified islamic institute that u are a scholar in Tafseer.
where this prquestics is listed exactly? is it in the Quran or the Hadith?
sorry I forgot the third oprtion, or did you just make that up?
Quote:Abdullah Ibn Masood may Allah be pleased with him was called to be "Torjuman Al-Quran" which means translator of Quran, HOW and his mother language is arabic, which means even if u r an arabic speaker u cannot have good Ilm in arabic language, and that is why the sunna for to translate The Quran.
Sorry, what you just said make no sense nor it has no merit
Quote:I will not talk much here, it is not the topic or time.
hmmm, you already did
Thanks for the discourgament
Quote: So do the above four fit u if so and your intention in tafseer is to translate the tafseer of Quran then my apologies.
Honestely, you don't need to appolgise, thanks for you honest opinion anyway
Quote: if not then have to tell u, u cannot finish this translation unless u change your intention of the translation.
and what is my intention as you understand it?
Quote: Fifth Sorry for not welcoming u. Welcome :)
No worries, thanks
Quote:Sixth your file is not working. :conf06:
Salam Alaykom
I think you must have your browser blocking Flash movies, the file is a flash movie that is 1.2 MB in size, you should get a progress bar as the movie downloads
Salam