A Comparison

[Faith Hope Charity]

Glory to God, peace on earth, good will to all!

May those in the darkness see the light, Ameen. You know what? my ex catholic friends consider me lucky too. Alhamdulelah. :)

Wael, I love you just the way you are. I couldn't love you more even if you were Catholic. Alhamdulilah. Don't ever change!

I’ve already said <b>many times </b> that not only Jesus who has authority over the nature, not only him who cast out devils, not only him who healed the sick, not only him who raised the dead etc etc etc… <b>miracles are not the proof that he is God. </b>

Only God has complete authority over nature.


I guess the difference is that I believe Jesus performed miracles by His own accord (He's a Divine Person), whereas you don't.

Clearly, you don’t understand my English, I said. Why can’t you be humble enough to say that <b>‘NO there isn’t any verse where Jesus himself declared that he is the creator of this universe’?</b> he never said it FHC, <b>Jesus never said it</b>. what stupidity are you talking about?

Wael, as much as I love you, I'm one step away from adding you to my "Ignore List". I can't keep explaining the same concept over & over to a grown man with the mentality of a 5 year old.


Please stop approaching the Holy Bible in the same way as you approach the Holy Quran. They each possess a unique style. We receive messages from God in completely different ways.


Did Jesus imply that He existed before Creation? Yes! But you kindly asked me not to mention that particular verse so I'm guessing you already know the answer but don't want to face up to it.

You are not making any sense FHC, even if you will go on forever!!!, you reminded me of the well known boxer, <i>Muhammad Ali Clay</i>, who used to say “<b>I am the greatest</b>” and he kept saying that even when he looses, but many people did not agree on his <b>personal view</b>. You are just chanting slogans that have nothing to do with reality.

Mohammad Ali is the greatest - hehe! I have so much respect for that man!

In John 20:17 we read:
"Jesus saith unto her, ...I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; <b>and to my God, and your God</b>
."


Not only is God Jesus' father, <b>but He is also his GOD</b>. and if he has a God, <b>then he can never be God. </b>


And that’s why he used to pray to <b>HIS GOD </b> asking HIM for help before performing such miracles. sounds like he is doing all the works out of his own ‘<i>divine will’</i>, seems like he never said that <i>I CAN OF MY OWN SELF DO NOTHING</i>, this statement prove that he is using his <i>OWN DIVINE WILL </i> to perform miracles, seems like he never said "<i>I with the finger of God cast out devils</i>", no no he do it on his own.

:sleep2: You keep repeating yourself. It's obviously not for my benefit or for yours. Why do you do it? You & I have discussed all the above previously. If the new members are curious about these verses then they can ask me themselves. You know in which threads you can find the answers.


Until next time, take care & God bless.