05-21-2007, 03:55 AM
Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.
Quote:My aim is never to "prove you wrong". Consider yourself lucky. I'm doing you a favour by offering my version of Christianity. May those in the darkness see the light
May those in the darkness see the light, Ameen. You know what? my ex catholic friends consider me lucky too. Alhamdulelah. :)
Quote:Then have a think about Jesus' actions. He communicates His Divinity in many profound ways...
When He walked on water, He showed He has authority over nature.
When He cast out demons, He showed He has authority over evil.
When He healed on the Sabbath, He showed He has authority over the Law.
When He brought Lazareth & Jarius' daughter back to life, He showed He has authority over death.
I’ve already said <b>many times </b> that not only Jesus who has authority over the nature, not only him who cast out devils, not only him who healed the sick, not only him who raised the dead etc etc etc… <b>miracles are not the proof that he is God. </b>
Quote:That wouldn't be humility, it'll be stupidity!
Clearly, you don’t understand my English, I said. Why can’t you be humble enough to say that <b>‘NO there isn’t any verse where Jesus himself declared that he is the creator of this universe’?</b> he never said it FHC, <b>Jesus never said it</b>. what stupidity are you talking about?
Quote:Christ created a New Covenant. He created the Church. He created the Sacraments. He created the New Temple. He created eternal life. He created Apostles. He created children of God. He created the New Jerusalem.
When my cousin told me she's pregnant the first thing we all yelled was, "thank you Jesus!"... in other words, "thank you God for creating this baby."
I could go on forever!!!
Jesus Christ is God. He's the principle of Creation & Redemption. Alleluia!
You are not making any sense FHC, even if you will go on forever!!!, you reminded me of the well known boxer, <i>Muhammad Ali Clay</i>, who used to say “<b>I am the greatest</b>” and he kept saying that even when he looses, but many people did not agree on his <b>personal view</b>. You are just chanting slogans that have nothing to do with reality.
In John 20:17 we read:
"Jesus saith unto her, ...I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; <b>and to my God, and your God</b>
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Not only is God Jesus' father, <b>but He is also his GOD</b>. and if he has a God, <b>then he can never be God. </b>
Quote:We don't believe in Jesus' Divinity solely based on the miracles He performed. Many others have performed miracles. The difference is Jesus performed them of His own Divine Will.
And that’s why he used to pray to <b>HIS GOD </b> asking HIM for help before performing such miracles. sounds like he is doing all the works out of his own ‘<i>divine will’</i>, seems like he never said that <i>I CAN OF MY OWN SELF DO NOTHING</i>, this statement prove that he is using his <i>OWN DIVINE WILL </i> to perform miracles, seems like he never said "<i>I with the finger of God cast out devils</i>", no no he do it on his own.
Salam
Wael.