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JazakumAllah Khair sister Muslimah for clarifying the issue about praying nawafil after Fajr and Asr. This is something I never heard about before.
Quote:Just to point out how shaytan worked hard on this issue, why dont they mourn Shuhadaa Auhud including Hamza? Hamza whom the Messenger salla Allah a`lyhee wa sallam sat next to crying?? I understand that Hussain's murder ws committed by so called Muslims. but martyrdom is martyrdom and the loss in Auhud was no less in magnitude and effect.
You are right Muslimah. In fact the Shia do mourn for Hamza. If you were to go to a Shia mosque on Shawwal 15th you will see a mourning ceremony held in honour of Sayyiduna Hamza and the martyrs of Ohod. Also if you visited Ohod while you were on Umrah you might have noticed many Shia gather at the grave and recite Ziyarah and mourn.
Ibn Taiymiyyah is a well known hater of Shia. His opinion doesn't count for much as far as I am concerned. Muslimah I am familiar with the Hadiths in Sahih Muslim regarding grieving. In fact here are the exact quotes:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/h...im/001.smt.html
Quote:Book 001, Number 0186:
It is narrated on the authority of Abu Burda b. Abu Musa that Abu Musa was afflicted with grave pain and he became unconscious and his head was in the lap of a lady of his household. One of the women of his household walled. He (Abu Musa) was unable (because of weakness) to say anything to her. But when he was a bit recovered he said: I have no concern with one with whom the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) has no concern, <b>Verily the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) has no concern with that woman who wails loudly, shaves her hair and tears (her garment in grief).</b>
Book 001, Number 0187:
It is narrated on the authority of Abu Burda that Abu Musa fell unconscious and his wife Umm Abdullah came there and wailed loudly. When he felt relief he said: Don't you know? -and narrated to her: Verily the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: <b>I have no concern with one who shaved her hair, lamented loudly and tore (her clothes in grief).</b>
Book 001, Number 0184:
It is narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. Mas'ud that the Holy Prophet observed: <b>He is not one of us (one among the Ummah of Islam) who beat the cheeks or tore the front opening of the shirt or uttered the slogans of (the days of) Jahiliya (ignorance). Ibn Numair and Abu Bakr said (instead of the word" au" (or) it is" wa" [and] the words are) and tore and uttered (the slogans) of Jahiliya without" alif".</b>
The first 2 hadiths Condemn women who Wail Loudly AND shaves her hair AND tears her garment. There is no Shia who does that.
The last Hadith according to Abu Bakr and Ibn Numair is "And tore AND uttered slogans of Jahiliyya without alif" Again I don't think any Shia would do that either.
What the Shia DO is mourn in mourning ceremonies, crying and reciting eulogies. Inshallah in my next post I will examine this further.