Ask a Shia

[Karbala]

:bismillah:

May Allah Allow us all to unite rather than divide. We do need this brother dont we???

:allahuakbar: My heart fills with joy when I hear words like that. From our point of view we are all muslims and it is our duty to stick together and free our lands. Listen to the speeches of Sayyed Nasrallah do you see any traces of sectarianism? By Allah a Shia can never rest easy while his/her muslims brethren are oppressed in Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq etc.


The Supreme leader of Iran Ayatollah Sayyed Ali Khamenei declared this year as the year of islamic unity and solidarity. Inshallah i hope the ummah can get over petty differences. One day I pray that you, me and all muslims can pray freely in Al-Quds Ameen.

Alhamdulelah I m a native speaker and like to track things properly before I give u my comment.

:hamdulila:


You have a great gift I hope you dont take it for granted. I started learning Arabic a year ago and it is amazingly hard. I can just about order a taxi or ask the price of food or tell the time.

Imagine I wished that I can speak Farsi, I used to sit next to them and use very simple english, one of the women informed me that their Mullah's teach them to pray sunnah after fajr and asr rather than before. I explained that their beloved Messenger who is more important than the Mullahs taught us other wise. Not sure if u r exposed to similar situations. But this is how some scholars become responsible for faults of Muslims.

That is a bizarre incident and I dont know exactly what happened. I speak some Farsi and know Iranians quite well. Ive been to Iran and met many ulema from Iran. This maybe a one off because Iranians are normally very well informed of fiqh because the majority of Grand Ulema graduate from Qom in Iran. Nevertheless sunnah definitely before Fajr and Asr.

talk about taking the words from the Quran and twisting it to fit a whim and a desire

Shia of today have no relation what so ever, with the verses of the Quran mentioned above.

I never claimed they did. Read my post again. I was explaining the origins of the word Shia and how it is applied. I even specifically mentioned that on its own it has no positive or negative connotation simply means "follower" or "band of people" as you put it. Some people object to these terms saying that they are sectarian and devisive. I was simply saying that the term has been used in relation to such great people like Ibrahim :asalam: and therefore it cannot be wrong to use them. I do not think this is twisting the words of the Quran. If you disagree id like to know why?

Karbla, as long as you are sourcing to tafseer, would u help me by giving me the Surah of which the tafseer contained the hadeeth you quote regarding shia of Ali, this will Insh a Allah make my task easier.

I believe the Ayat was <b>98:7 (As for) those who believe and do good, surely they are the best of creatures.</b>


I think I have located the hadith in Durr al-Manthur by Suyuti. Here is the link http://www.al-eman.com/IslamLib/viewchp....48&CID=545 (just scroll to the last few sentences of Surah 98).


وأخرج ابن عدي عن ابن عباس قال‏:‏ لما نزلت ‏{‏إن الذين آمنوا وعملوا الصالحات أولئك هم خير البرية‏}‏ قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم لعلي‏:‏ هو أنت وشيعتك يوم القيامة راضين مرضيين‏"‏‏.‏

What i m aware of is that a group (Murtadeen) whom actually Ali ordered for them to be burnt, u know this hadeeth, when Ibn Abbass disagreed with his decision. Those were the group who attributed divinity to Ali, am I not correct???

You are correct there was a group known as "Ghulats" or extremists who went to the extreme of ascribing divinity to Ali. These people were punished by being burnt. I can find a reference if you like. These werent the people I was referring to and the Shia (the true Shia Ithn Ashari) most definitely will never ever ever worship Ali :hawla: God save us from such misguidance.


Concerning the Sahaba I will get back to that anopther time in another post Inshallah when I have some time.


Let me know if you need any more help. :wasalam: