so this whole thing is about whether jesus is God or not?
Quote:"What is your proof that he is god??"
I will refute this by simplest ways possible, and let the buddy who is claiming that Jesus is a God, reply back....
what is in <b>BOLD</b> is what Muslims percieve as God...
<b>There is nothing like Him</b>
you say he is a man, he is a son, he is a spirit, he is a light....
<b> There is nothing that can overwhelm Him.</b>
according to your theory, the romans killed him, tortured him and crucefied him
<b>There is no god other than Him. </b>
you say that he is, the father, the son, and the holy spirit, thus the trinity...regardless of u tell me it is still one, you have gave God three of one..which voids the fact that god is one
<b>He is the Eternal without a beginning and enduring without end. </b>
Jesus has a begninning and had an end (according to your faith) at least from his man state being born till he got killed...
<b>He will never perish or come to an end. </b>
according to you, his man state came to an end
<b>Nothing happens except what He wills. </b>
according to your belief, God wanted to be humilated, tortured, spit on, thrown stones at,.... what respectful concept of God is this? he wills such humilation? God addressed himself with the best of names in relation to his status and royalty...yet u say people killed him and made him bleed to death, like a goat after it being slaughtered.
<b>No imagination can conceive of Him and no understanding can comprehend Him.</b>
you gave him, a form, a limit, a shape, a sex, a beginning , an end, and the list goes on forever...
<b>He is different from any created being.</b>
still you give him the status of a man who needs to breath, eat , and drink
<b> He is living and never dies and is eternally active and never sleeps. </b>
according to you he died (temp) and u know what, ofcourse since he is a man, he needed sleep to rest...
is this how u see god? a weak being?
<b>He creates without His being in need to do so and provides for His creation without any effort. </b>
according to you, he created man, to go live with them, and become part of them, thus him becoming part of his creation...
<b>He has always existed together with His attributes since before creation. Bringing creation into existence did not add anything to His attributes that was not already there. As He was, together with His attributes, in pre-eternity, so He will remain throughout endless time. </b>
according to you, God can change forms and shapes... if so how is he the unique?
<b>He created creation with His knowledge. </b>
he didnt need trial and error and to experiment whether humans will disobey or not... but according to you, all his prophets FAILED, and he had to come down himself, which the sound mind cannot understand how he was still up there, but down here on earth, but not a man, but still a god, and still say he came here to be part of us, and to be like us AS IF HE DIDNT CREATE MAN with his knowledge...
thus you claim Jesus was God, and what i have given u is logical proof so far that Jesus cannot be God , cz he is the complete opposite to what i stated on how God is.... worthy of worship
i can go on forever with this, but i will stop here and show u how much respect we have for Jesus as the prophet , son of Mary
English Yusuf Ali: [3:42]
Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.
English Yusuf Ali: [3:43]
"O Mary! worship Thy Lord devoutly: Prostrate thyself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who bow down."
English Yusuf Ali: [3:44]
This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Messenger!) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point).
English Yusuf Ali: [3:45]
Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah;
English Yusuf Ali: [3:46]
"He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous."
English Yusuf Ali: [3:47]
She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: <b>When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!</b>
English Yusuf Ali: [3:48]
"And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel,
English Yusuf Ali: [3:49]
"And (appoint him) a messenger to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by <b>Allah's leave</b>: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, <b>by Allah's leave</b>; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;
English Yusuf Ali: [3:50]
"'(I have come to you), to attest the Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (Before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear Allah, and obey me.
English Yusuf Ali: [3:51]
"'It is Allah Who is <b>my Lord and your Lord</b>; then worship Him. This is a Way that is straight.'"