04-07-2007, 05:11 PM
Here is a good example for the other type of Shirk which was referred to as <b>” شُرَكَآؤُكُمُ”</b> and <b>” شُرَكَآؤُهُمْ”</b>, <b>”Your partners”</b> and <b>”Their partners”</b> respectively
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22: And on the day when We shall gather them all together, then shall We say to those who associated others (with Allah): Where are your associates whom you asserted?
23: Then their excuse would be nothing but that they would say: By Allah, our Lord, we were not polytheists.
24: See how they lie against their own souls, and that which they forged has passed away from them.
<i>[The Quran ; 6:22-24]</i>
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وَيَوْمَ نَحْشُرُهُمْ جَمِيعًا ثُمَّ نَقُولُ لِلَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُواْ أَيْنَ شُرَكَآؤُكُمُ الَّذِينَ كُنتُمْ تَزْعُمُونَ (22)
ثُمَّ لَمْ تَكُن فِتْنَتُهُمْ إِلاَّ أَن قَالُواْ وَاللّهِ رَبِّنَا مَا كُنَّا مُشْرِكِينَ (23)
انظُرْ كَيْفَ كَذَبُواْ عَلَى أَنفُسِهِمْ وَضَلَّ عَنْهُم مَّا كَانُواْ يَفْتَرُونَ (24)
-> See how it was said to those who committed the second type of Shirk: <b>” أَيْنَ شُرَكَآؤُكُمُ”</b>, <b>” Where are your associates”</b>, not <b>“my associates”</b>
-> The problem for those who commit the second type of Shirk that they don’t really think that they are Mushrikoon :<b>” Then their excuse would be nothing but that they would say: By Allah, our Lord, we were not polytheists.”</b>, see, a clear cut Mushrik who is worshipping another thing as a god (the first type of Shirk) can’t really deny the crime, but with those who commit the second type of shirk which does not involve any physical worshipping rather obeying other man made laws which made associated to Allah, they really think that they are not Mushrikoon, but the are surely confused and misguided <b>” See how they lie against their own souls, and that which they forged has passed away from them.”</b>
Indeed Allah even explained to us what He means by <b>”Your partners”</b> and <b>“Their partners”</b>, let’s have a look:
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Or have they associates who have prescribed for them in the religion that Allah does not sanction? And were it not for the word of judgment, decision would have certainly been given between them; and surely the unjust shall have a painful punishment.
<i>[The Quran ; 42:21]</i>
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أَمْ لَهُمْ شُرَكَاء شَرَعُوا لَهُم مِّنَ الدِّينِ مَا لَمْ يَأْذَن بِهِ اللَّهُ وَلَوْلَا كَلِمَةُ الْفَصْلِ لَقُضِيَ بَيْنَهُمْ وَإِنَّ الظَّالِمِينَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ (21)
-> See, <b>” أَمْ لَهُمْ شُرَكَاء شَرَعُوا لَهُم مِّنَ الدِّينِ مَا لَمْ يَأْذَن بِهِ اللَّهُ”</b>, i.e. <b>” Or have they associates who have prescribed for them in the religion that Allah does not sanction?”</b>, please tell me, how many Shiekh, Mullahs, Imams and Muftis prescribed to us many things in the religion that Allah never sanctioned in His Quran?, can’t get clearer than this, indeed all those Muslims who follow any Imam, or a Mufti or a Shiekh or a Mullah in any thing “<b>Haram or Halal</b>” that Allah never sanctioned must be committing the second and common type of Shirk as 42:21 clearly is telling us.
This warning against saying “This is Halal and that is Haram” was clearly stated in the Quran:
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“But say not - for any false thing that your tongues may put forth,- This is lawful, and this is forbidden, so as to ascribe false things to Allah. For those who ascribe false things to Allah, will never prosper.”
<i>[The Quran ; 6:116]</i>
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وَلاَ تَقُولُواْ لِمَا تَصِفُ أَلْسِنَتُكُمُ الْكَذِبَ هَذَا حَلاَلٌ وَهَذَا حَرَامٌ لِّتَفْتَرُواْ عَلَى اللّهِ الْكَذِبَ إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يَفْتَرُونَ عَلَى اللّهِ الْكَذِبَ لاَ يُفْلِحُونَ (116)
-> See how the verse started<b>” But say not - for any false thing that your tongues may put forth,-”</b>, see how what is about to be said is already described as FALSE, let’s see what we should never say : <b>” هَذَا حَلاَلٌ وَهَذَا حَرَامٌ”</b>, i.e. <b>“ This is lawful, and this is forbidden”</b>, again it was described as lies associated to Allah: <b>” لِّتَفْتَرُواْ عَلَى اللّهِ الْكَذِبَ ٌ”</b>, i.e. <b>” so as to ascribe false things to Allah”</b>, the problem for those who suggest that this is Halal and that is Haram as simply as follow:<b>” For those who ascribe false things to Allah, will never prosper.”</b>
Let’s have a look at another example of Shirk type 2 where the Mushrikoon listen to their associates and kill their children, I believe this verse is talking about the Jinn trying to obscure the believers from their religion, if the believers obey them then they shirked:
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And thus their associates have made fair seeming to most of the polytheists the killing of their children, that they may cause them to perish and obscure for them their religion; and if Allah had pleased, they would not have done it, therefore leave them and that which they forge.
<i>[The Quran ; 6:137]</i>
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وَكَذَلِكَ زَيَّنَ لِكَثِيرٍ مِّنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ قَتْلَ أَوْلاَدِهِمْ شُرَكَآؤُهُمْ لِيُرْدُوهُمْ وَلِيَلْبِسُواْ عَلَيْهِمْ دِينَهُمْ وَلَوْ شَاء اللّهُ مَا فَعَلُوهُ فَذَرْهُمْ وَمَا يَفْتَرُونَ (137)
-> Again see how it was said: <b>” شُرَكَآؤُهُمْ”</b>, i.e. <b>”Their associates”</b>, not the associated of Allah, <b>” And thus their associates have made fair seeming to most of the polytheists the killing of their children,”</b>, their associates only have one objective in regard to the religion of Allah: <b>” that they may cause them to perish and obscure for them their religion”</b>, i.e. if the obey them then they shirked and those who has been obeyed will be their associates (their partners).
The problem is for those who obey others but God in matters that are related to the religion and are never sanctioned by God, they think they are not Mushrikoon, even those who are obeyed will deny that those who obeyed them were worshipping them:
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28: And on the day when We will gather them all together, then We will say to the polytheists: Keep where you are, you and your associates; then We shall separate them widely one from another and their associates would say: It was not us that you served:
29: Therefore Allah is sufficient as a witness between us and you that we were quite unaware of your serving (us).
<i>[The Quran ; 10:28-29]</i>
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وَيَوْمَ نَحْشُرُهُمْ جَمِيعًا ثُمَّ نَقُولُ لِلَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُواْ مَكَانَكُمْ أَنتُمْ وَشُرَكَآؤُكُمْ فَزَيَّلْنَا بَيْنَهُمْ وَقَالَ شُرَكَآؤُهُم مَّا كُنتُمْ إِيَّانَا تَعْبُدُونَ (28)
فَكَفَى بِاللّهِ شَهِيدًا بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَكُمْ إِن كُنَّا عَنْ عِبَادَتِكُمْ لَغَافِلِينَ (29)
-> How clear is that, well both the Mushrikoon type 2 and their associates will be held to account:<b>” And on the day when We will gather them all together, then We will say to the polytheists: Keep where you are, you and your associates;”</b>, see how Allah is going to stun them : ”Keep where you are”, then both will be separated then their associates will deny that those who obeyed them were worshipping them :<b>” then We shall separate them widely one from another and their associates would say: It was not us that you served:”</b>, see
-> They are not lying actually, they are only confused because they don’t know that by others obeying them in matters that are related to the Sharia of the religion while Allah never sanctioned it, they took them as their associates , their associates will even seek the witness of Allah that they were not aware that those who obeyed them were really worshipping them:<b>” Therefore Allah is sufficient as a witness between us and you that we were quite unaware of your serving (us).”</b>, again, how clear is that.
The following verses are really compelling:
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35: Say: Is there any of your associates who guides to the truth? Say: Allah guides to the truth. Is He then Who guides to the truth more worthy to be followed, or he who himself does not go aright unless he is guided? What then is the matter with you; how do you judge?
36: And most of them do not follow (anything) but conjecture; surely conjecture will not avail aught against the truth; surely Allah is cognizant of what they do.
<i>[The Quran ; 10:35-36]</i>
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قُلْ هَلْ مِن شُرَكَآئِكُم مَّن يَهْدِي إِلَى الْحَقِّ قُلِ اللّهُ يَهْدِي لِلْحَقِّ أَفَمَن يَهْدِي إِلَى الْحَقِّ أَحَقُّ أَن يُتَّبَعَ أَمَّن لاَّ يَهِدِّيَ إِلاَّ أَن يُهْدَى فَمَا لَكُمْ كَيْفَ تَحْكُمُونَ (35)
وَمَا يَتَّبِعُ أَكْثَرُهُمْ إِلاَّ ظَنًّا إَنَّ الظَّنَّ لاَ يُغْنِي مِنَ الْحَقِّ شَيْئًا إِنَّ اللّهَ عَلَيمٌ بِمَا يَفْعَلُونَ (36)
-> Allah is raising a very strong argument against the polytheists type 2, <b>” Say: Is there any of your associates who guides to the truth?”</b>, Allah is also giving the answer to the Question He raised against those polytheists type 2: <b>” Say: Allah guides to the truth.”</b>, we only have one guidance sent to us from Allah called the Quran, the strong argument continues, looks like the polytheists type 2 have been cornered:<b>” Is He then Who guides to the truth more worthy to be followed, or he who himself does not go aright unless he is guided?”</b>, see this bit must apply to Bukhari and Muslim, both themselves needs to be guided by Allah, so why the hell we should follow them in all these religious matters that were not sanctioned by Allah in His Quran? “not because they claim the prophet said so, we will never be able to prove that the prophet said any word in the their so called sahih books), well, here is what Allah is telling those Mushrikoon who follow Bukhari, Muslim and others in any religious matter that is not sanctioned by Allah, <b>” how do you judge?”</b>
-> Indeed following Bukhari, Muslim and others in any religious matter that is not sanctioned by Allah is nothing but following conjectures, and because these conjectures are religious related then this will constitute Shirk type 2, however most polytheists follow nothing but conjectures:<b>” And most of them do not follow (anything) but conjecture;”</b>, here is other news for those polytheists type 2 who follow conjectures in religious matters : <b>” surely conjecture will not avail aught against the truth; surely Allah is cognizant of what they do.”</b>, the truth mentioned is the Quran of course (it is the only truthful book the believes have), and sure the Truth (the Quran) is exposing their shirk fair and square as we have seen so far.
Indeed Allah mentioned the second type of Shirk using the two words <b>” شُرَكَآؤُكُمُ”</b> <b>”Shurakaakum”</b> and <b>” شُرَكَآؤُهُمْ”</b> <b>”Shurakaahum”</b> <b>”Your partners”</b> and <b>”Their partners”</b> respectively 15 times compared with the 5 times He talked about the first type of Shirk represented by the word <b>” شُرَكَائِيَ”</b>, <b>”Shurakaai”</b> <b>”My Partners”</b> this indicates that the second type of shirk is far more common by humans.
You have to understand that the start of the Shirk by humans has seeded from Satan himself, because if we obey him in what is clearly the opposite to what Allah told us then we have shirked, i.e. obeying Satan is a clear cut shirk. In fact satan will expose those who followed him and will tell then that they shirked by listening to him, this will happen on in the JD.
This crystal clear fact of SHIRKING SATAN WITH ALLAH when we obey satan, will be told to those ignorant humans by satan himself on the JD:
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And Satan will say when the matter is decided: It was Allah Who gave you a promise of Truth: I too promised, but I failed in my promise to you. I had no authority over you except to invite you but ye listened to me: then reproach not me, but reproach your own souls. I cannot listen to your cries, nor can ye listen to mine. I reject your former act in associating me with Allah. For wrong-doers there must be a grievous penalty.
<i>[The Quran ; 14:22]</i>
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وَقَالَ الشَّيْطَانُ لَمَّا قُضِيَ الأَمْرُ إِنَّ اللّهَ وَعَدَكُمْ وَعْدَ الْحَقِّ وَوَعَدتُّكُمْ فَأَخْلَفْتُكُمْ وَمَا كَانَ لِيَ عَلَيْكُم مِّن سُلْطَانٍ إِلاَّ أَن دَعَوْتُكُمْ فَاسْتَجَبْتُمْ لِي فَلاَ تَلُومُونِي وَلُومُواْ أَنفُسَكُم مَّا أَنَاْ بِمُصْرِخِكُمْ وَمَا أَنتُمْ بِمُصْرِخِيَّ إِنِّي كَفَرْتُ بِمَآ أَشْرَكْتُمُونِ مِن قَبْلُ إِنَّ الظَّالِمِينَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ (22)
-> See, when the JD verdict is passed, Satan will tell whoever he managed to invite and flaw: <b>” And Satan will say when the matter is decided: It was Allah Who gave you a promise of Truth: I too promised, but I failed in my promise to you.”</b>, the fact of the matter is, Satan never had authority on us but a mere invitation :<b>” I had no authority over you except to invite you but ye listened to me:”</b>, but he can’t be blamed because he didn’t force them : <b>” then reproach not me, but reproach your own souls.”</b>, in fact both will be crying hard at that time : <b>” I cannot listen to your cries, nor can ye listen to mine.”</b>, then he will tell them that their actions was SHIRK : <b>” I reject your former act in associating me with Allah.”</b>
From all the above there is no doubt that the ones been worshipped in the verses mohmed boofhead posted are only talking about those among the humans and the jinn who are misguided themselves by joining satan party then continued to deceive other humans and jinn by lying and saying the opposite about what Allah says, when we follow those misguided ones by listening and obeying what they say which is the opposite to what Allah says then we shirked and on the JD both the Mushrikoon and their associates will be gathered in hell together as the verses posted by mohmed boofhead
It is also clear that the majority of the Muslims are committing shirk without even realizing it, just look at how most Muslims talks about the heresay hadith and prophet Mohammad while they hardly talk about Allah through His Quran, they even reach the extreme level of shirk that when they mention Allah and His prophet in the same sentence they only praise the prophet and not Allah, they even abbreviate the name Allah to the letter A in (SAW) while the name Mohammad is written in full and never been abbreviated, we have seen the kafirs on FFI web site doing it with the name Mohammad by abbreviating to Mo so the Mushrikoon followed their foot steps and did it with the name Allah and made it A, no wonder we read the following verse in the Quran
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And most of them do not believe in Allah without associating others (with Him).
<i>[The Quran ; 12:106]</i>
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وَمَا يُؤْمِنُ أَكْثَرُهُمْ بِاللّهِ إِلاَّ وَهُم مُّشْرِكُونَ (106)
Do I really need to Adao Allah to help those confused Muslims?, well while I hope it happens, I won’t end my comment by asking Allah to guide them because it will never happen unless they change and confront their clear cut shirk, here is a photo from a so called Islamic country (Egypt) showing the two names next to each other “Allah and Mohammad”, this photo is taken by me personally a few month back in a cemetery in Egypt, ironically you will see both names next to each other every where, even stickers on cars and public transport:
Salam