03-12-2007, 04:04 PM
Quote:In The Name of Allah the One free of all defects He <b>begets</b> NOT nor is He <b>Begotten</b> And Nothing is His Likeness He is one the God of Abrahaam,Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. I'd like to say to You F HCharity That It is true that Muslims differ on the these issue, Yet the truth is one I'd like to discuss with you regarding another issue in the best manner using wisdom free from ill-manners using that Intellect which Allah has given Us with the hope that you and I can come to an agreement to some issues which cover God, Who and How he is to be worshiped weather or not This God is in need of intermediaries, and latter I would like to introduce you to an Historical document writen some years ago. keep in mind I wont make this a personal issue nor will I bager you into becoming a muslim. My hope is to show you the truth of Islam and you'll come to be a muslim all on your own from study. First lets acualize and focus our attention on the statement In the Qur'an where Allah is addressing a group of people: <b>And they (Jews, christians and pagans) say: Allâh has begotten a son (children or offspring). Glory be to Him (Exalted be He above all that they associate with Him). Nay, to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth, and all surrender with obedience (in worship) to Him. (Al-Baqarah 2:116) </b> If posible could we have our discussion in the appropriate setting maybe the belief forum or even you may choose which room. Thanx
One Of the supplications that the Prophet taugh his Companions specifically Hasan bin Alee and e also use to supplicate during the Qunoot of the witr. was "And save me from the bad of what You have ordained" this hadeeth is authentic. Ahmad(1723) and others.
As is well known that the servent Has some free will yet It is NOT from proper adab with Allah to
1 Use the Qadaa and the Qadar of Allah as an excuse for us to abandon following His commandments and avoiding His prohibitions: see 4:165
we know that Allah did not command or forbid except that which can be acted upon or abandoned. He did not force anyone to commit acts of disobedience nor did He compell anyone to abandon obeying Him. daleel is 2:286 and 64:16 also 40:17 these ayat indicate every servent possesses actions and things he earns. he will be recompensed for his good deeds with reward and punished for his bad this will occur by the divine execution(Al-Qadaa and Qadr decree of Allah.
incidently It is not our way to argue and bicker with the muslims on these issue Qadr espesually The Sahaabah believed in it and didn't delve into it like the people of Retoric today It's Not from good adab with Allah....
<b>Ibnul al- Mubaarak said "adab is to the one with deep knowledge and understanding like repentence is to the supplicant"</b>
As salaamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakathu