03-04-2007, 02:49 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-04-2007, 02:53 PM by Faith Hope Charity.)
To the Sacred Heart of Jesus, through the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
Quote:Ok let's talk about Mary for a while.
There's nothing else I'd rather do :wub:
Quote:<b>please show me from the Bible that:</b>
Anything for you, Wael :) Even though you don't recognize the authenticity & sacredness of Scripture.
1- Mary placed herself between Jesus and his followers, in other words, no one reach God and Jesus except through Mary.
Praying through Mary is optional not compulsory.
She interceded for the guests at the wedding in Cana by asking Jesus to perform His first miracle & change water to wine.
St John 2:1-11.
2- God’s love can reach you only through Mary.
God's love - Jesus Christ - reached us through Mother Mary, the vessel.
She accepted her calling & conceived Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit.
St Luke 1:26-38.
3- That the knowledge of ‘truth’ comes only through Mary.
When the BVM's cousin, St Elizabeth, heard her greeting, the baby in her womb, St John the Baptist, leaped for joy. St Elizabeth then called the BVM blessed because she believed the words God had spoken were true.
St Luke 1:44-45.
4- That Salvation and all heavenly gifts from Father, son and holy ghost comes only through Mary.
The fruit of the BVM's womb is Divine & He brings everything from Heaven into this world.
St Luke 1:42-43.
Jesus Christ, Mary's Son, is the Saviour of the world & He has given us everything the Father gave to Him.
St John 15:9-11.
5- That Mary is the ladder, Chief confidence, whole ground of hope, greatest security, and the door to God for the sinners.
By the grace of God bestowed upon the BVM, she crushed the head of the serpent - the source of evil which causes us to sin.
Revelation 12; cf Genesis 3:15.
6- That Mary is co-shared in the offering and sacrifice for sin at Calvary.
The sword that pierced Jesus Christ also pierced His Mother as she stood & watched Him being beaten & crucified, as prophesized.
St Luke 2:33-35.
7- Mary is also redeemer, mediator, intercessor, advocate, restorer and minister and not only Jesus.
The biblical references for most of these have been provided above.
The BVM is co-redemptorist because she's the vehicle for our Redeemer (Isaiah 7:14). Jesus Christ in the only mediator between God & man (1 St Timothy 2:5), the BVM is the mediator between her Son & Christians & she intercedes on our behalf (ST John 2:23-5). The grace which our first parents lost was restored in the BVM (St Luke 1:28). She took part in all the pivotal events in her Son's life & continued His ministry alongside the Apostles after Christ's Ascension (Acts 1:12-14).
She's a gift from her Son to His beloved disciple (each one of us).
St John 19:26-27.
8- That Mary can hear your prayer and answer them faster than Jesus.
The BVM can answer our prayers faster than Jesus??? :o That's a heresy!
9- Mary is the first born daughter of God.
The BVM is the new Eve. She's the Virgin of the Covenant which God establishes with all humanity in the new creation.
http://www.ewtn.com/library/papaldoc/jp2bvm18.htm (lots of biblical verses).
10- Mary is the spouse and lover of Godhead.
11- Mary is the bride and spouse of God the father.
12- Mary is the spouse and bride of God the son.
13- Mary is the bride and spouse of God the holy spirit.
:lol: How on earth will you understand this having not yet grasped the concept/truth of the Most Holy Trinity?
The BVM is the daughter of God the Father.
The BVM is the mother of God the Son.
The BVM is the spouse of the Holy Spirit.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_council...gentium_en.html (please read chapter VIII for biblical verses & so much more than you bargained for).
14- Through Mary God is glorified and adored.
By the Incarnation, the Son of God became Man & entered the world through the BVM. Many people came to worship Christ after Mother Mary gave birth to Him.
St Luke 2:7-20.
15- Mary is Divine, Sovereign, and Reigns on the throne of God.
Excuse me???
16- God Himself is submissive and obedient to Mary, not only that but He is a subject to her.
Jesus Christ, the Son of God Incarnate, was obedient to His mother as all children ought. Mother Mary pondered all these things in her heart.
St Luke 2:48-51.
17- Everything you do, must be done for Mary.
Untrue! However, it wouldn't hurt us to make our Mother part of our daily lives.
18- Through Mary you can have Salvation and can enter heaven.
The BVM's prayers/intercessions strengthen us to become true disciples of Christ. She leads us to Him by her perfect example which we're called to follow.
Through the BVM, we receive the Son of God in the flesh. Through Mary, the Son of God assumed a human nature & died for the sins of the world, granting us eternal life. Only He can judge who enters Heaven.
Hebrews 9:26 & St John 5:22.
19- Through Mary you can gain eternal life.
God sent forth His Son, but to prepare a body for him, He wanted the free co-operation of a creature. The woman chosen is the BVM. Just as a woman had a share in the coming of death, so also should a woman contribute to the coming of life.
Galatians 4:4, Hebrews 10:5 & 1 Corinthians 15:21-22.
20- Mary is the center of the whole world, and so you should praise her, venerate her, honor her, esteem her and WORSHIP HER.
Completely absurd :rolleyes:
21- Devotion to Mary is a MUST for salvation and freedom from sin.
Devotions are helpful but are in no obligatory. In her apparitions, Our Lady urged the faithful to take her hand so to speak & join her in establishing God's kingdom on earth.
Quote:Please Note, I did not invent the above points by myself, nor did I copy and paste them from any Non Catholic websites, but I do have quotations by Pops, Catholic saints, books written by devoted learned Catholics, etc… and if you wish I can offer these quotations in case you object any of the above points.
Please note, you're not the first person on earth & you won't be the last to attack Catholicism. There's nothing Holy Mother Church isn't able to withstand from now until the end of time. Just ask Dan Brown :P
Quote:Anyway, I would like to see verses from the Bible confirming the above points.
We're at your service, Your Majesty :lol:
God bless.