03-04-2007, 11:45 AM
In the Name of God - Father Son Holy Spirit.
As long as I am following <i>Deen ul Haq</i> “<b>The religion of Truth</b>” Alhamdulelah
That's fine, Wael. You stick to your Deen & I'll stick to mine. There's no need to compete. We're both children of Abraham :)
Are you kidding? Do you bow down to your Bible out of respect? Do you pray to your Bible? Come on please…
Yes, I bow out of reverence when the Priest elevates it during Mass & I kiss it every night. I'm in deep prayer whilst reading the Holy Bible because God speaks to me through it.
Whenever you talk about something mentioned in the Qur’an please offer the reference, so we can check up your claim.
Hehe! Sorry, I assumed you knew it well. Sura al-Baqara, between Ayats 80-110 :)
Is this "Muslim" represent Islam? I can’t even see this image clearly. However, sometimes I hold my mother’s hand and kiss it, by doing that I must bow alittle bit, but I don’t pray to her, I don’t ask her to be there for me when I die. in other words, I Don't place her in a position that is not hers.
:D I was just trying to show you that true worship is expressed from within. We can bow/prostrate with various intentions.
You don't want your mother beside you on your death bed???
Pray is a conversation, remember? It's like you in Hong Kong chatting to your mom in Egypt over the phone & asking her to offer Dua for you. I'll go one step further & say that you're staring at a framed picture of her hung in your house :lol:
Continue kissing your mama's hands - she deserves it because she did an awesome job raising you :thumb:
for instance, i just saw in the news some months ago, <b>that millions of people gathered in Costa Rica's "holy city" of Cartago to ask Mary for an end to a crime wave that has traumatized the normally peaceful Central American nation. </b> You see FHC, the majority of catholics, in reality they worship the creation of God instead of the Creator. and by imitating the religions of pagans and thier way of worship and practices, and this is considered to be <b>polytheism</b>.
Perhaps it appears that way to you but not to me. I know exactly what they were doing :)
Yes but she have no power to listen to your prayer, the Bible mentioned that she herself <b>needed a savior</b>, then how can you ask her to save you through some stones made by human beings?
Every human being needs a saviour - Our Lady is no exception. The Son of God, Jesus Christ, redeemed us & now salvation is in our hands. We look to the BVM as our role model & we ask her to assist us on our path through her powerful prayers.
But I cant hear you FHC, I simply don’t even know what you are saying before typing your messages. Maybe sometimes you are saying, <i>“Oh this Muslim man is really boring”</i> , Who knows what you are saying FHC? Allah alone knows.
Me & my pathetic examples :lol: The Saints in Heaven have infused knowledge to a certain degree.
99% of my thoughts about you are positive... sometimes I think to myself, "What an Ahkrout" (Arabic) :P Indeed, Allah (SWT) knows... & so would you if I chose to make my thoughts known to you (like I do with the Saints).
I know what you believe, but praying <b>TO</b> other than Allah is an act of associating partners with Him in worship and praise.
Honestly Wael, if I were to offer more than veneration & honour to the BVM & the other Saints, they'd refuse it because they, like myself, cannot bear idolatry. God is One & only He is worthy of adoration, praise & worship. Amen!
This is your own interpretation FHC. But reality? You are <b>PRAYING TO THEM
TO SAVE YOU AND BE THERE FOR YOU WHEN YOU DIE</b>. Subhan Allah.
Here is how we pray to Our Lady...
"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed are thou among women & blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, <b>pray for us sinners, now & at the hour of our death</b>. Amen."
Subhan Allah.
The Ka’bah was built by the Prophet’s of God, with an order from God, the Statues of Mary and other <b>UNKNOWN</b> ‘<i>saints images’ </i> were the work of some artists following no commands from God.
They're based on God's commands in the O/T:
Exodus 25:18 - "And you shall make two cherubim of gold (for the Ark of the Covenant)"
Exodus 26:1 - The curtains around the ark have cherubim on them
Exodus 26:31 - The linen veil had cherubim placed on it
Numbers 21:8-9 - The Lord tells Moses to make the bronze serpent
1 Kings 6:23 - By God's design the temple had engraved cherubim
1 Kings 6:35 - Doors in the temple had Cherubim, flowers and palm trees carved on them
1 Kings 7:25-45 - By God's design the temple had bronze oxen and lions
<b>No comparison</b> between Muhammad pbuh and Mary may Allah be pleased with her.
Why do you say PBUH for Muhammad & MABPWH for Maryam??? What's the difference? Thanks :)
Ok can you also ask him/her <b>to confirm </b> whether she offered this Du’a for you or not? Thanks
Consider it done :)
Well, I don’t believe that it is belongs to God.
There's nothing in the world that doesn't belong to God.
no no no… I will drop this one too.
Hehe! As you wish!
Peace & blessings.