03-03-2007, 01:35 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2007, 01:43 PM by Faith Hope Charity.)
In the Name of God - Father Son Holy Spirit.
Peace be with you, Wael!
Here we go again... :D
There's no way of slowing you down :D
I also don’t throw the Bible around and treat it with disrespect. Although I don’t consider it holy, but since my Christians friends do have faith in it, then it become obligatory on me to show respect to their beliefs… however, I do not show any respect to some woods and stones made by human beings.
Hehe! You totally dodged my questions. So paper can represent holiness but wood & stone can't. I see.
Thanks for respecting the Holy Bible. According to the Holy Qur'an it's a gift from Allah ;)
No one bowed down to Prophet Muhammad pbuh (<b>the best of all creation</b>) when he was the ruler of Arabia. Do you see the significance now? The Prophet Muhammad pbuh even warned us not to make out of his grave a place of worship, to avoid the practice of <b>polytheism. </b>
Please see the attachment below. Obviously no one sent the memo to this poor Muslim dude who honored his mom by bowing before her.
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You know what? I will have no problem if you bow down out of respect to Mary may Allah be pleased with her when you see her <b>in real</b>, you may even kiss her hands and feets, <b>but to touch a piece of stone ,talk to it , bow down to it and ask for its help</b>??? That is not acceptable.
We don't consider the piece of stone to be Mary. She's alive & kicking in Heaven. For instance, right now, I'm chatting to you, but I'm sitting in front of a computer, so it's not really you but my message will reach you ;)
Absolutely wrong; Pagans during Muhammad’s pbuh time did believe in One True God and they even called Him Allah, but they associate with Him partners/saints in prayers and offering. Exactly what Catholics doing today.
Slight difference. The Saints are <i>our</i> partners, not God's.
True, they do believe in one and only God, but at the same time, <b>they also pray to other people along with the one true God. </b> which was practiced by pagans.
Prayer & worship aren't necessarily the same thing in this respect. When you say "pray to the Saints", I'm interpreting it as "conversing with the Saints". We pray to God through them. I guess you could call it prayer because we're raising up our thoughts & hearts to Heaven, where the Saints are at home in the Beatific Vision.
Because it was chosen by God to unite all Muslims into one direction, and we are not to question God why you chose this place exactly, can you as God why He chose Mount Sinai to speak with Moses and not the Everest? We are Muslims (i.e he who submits his will to the will of God) and since that was His will, then we obey it, and one of His will is to worship and call upon Him only and no His creation.
The last aspect we focus on in that event is whether God spoke at Mt Sinai or Mt Everest :lol:
Muslims even during Prophet Muhammad’s pbuh time stood up on the top of the Ka’bah to give the call for prayer, which idol worshipper today will stand on the top of the idol that he worship?
When a statue of the BVM breaks, you don't hear Catholics say, "Mary's torn into pieces". So I guess statues & images are similar to the Kabbah - holy & significant... but not an idol :)
By bearing witness that Muhammad pbuh is the messenger of God, you are making a commitment with God Almighty that you have accepted the message that he brought to humanity. The only one thing Muhammad pbuh was asking his people is to believe in only One True God, and that he was truly His messenger.
Hmmm... I see a parallel between Muhammad (PBUH) & the BVM. We just chose to honor them in different ways.
Yes, we may also offer Du’a and call upon God anytime we desire. In fact, in every action that Muslim take in his daily life, we do have a prayer; when we wake up, when we sleep, when we go to the bathroom, when we come out, when we eat, when we finish eating, when we go out of our home and when we come in, when we drive a car or take any transportation, when we see some calamity, when we enter the mosque, when we come out, and on and on…
I'm assuming you can pray for others during Dua, right??? I think I'll ask St Charbel to offer a Dua for me tonight :)
Maybe not to the Bible, but indeed I am doing to myself a favor by studying your Bible.
It's not my Bible - it's God's. He comes first, you come second ;)
Oh you are the first Christian who don’t get this one. Ok try hard and you will get it
The Holy Spirit's glasses... perhaps???
<b>Disturbing. </b>
<b>Profound.</b>
Salam and have a nice day.
Thanks! Right back at ya :thumb:
God bless.
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