The "Original" Manuscripts.

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Bismillah:

When opening the Bible, you can't pretend like you're the first person in history to do so. The 4th Commandment - honour your mother & your father - applies. We must honor the Church as well as the Early Fathers (past Bishops, Theologians, etc) who have come before us & written endless commentaries on Scripture.

So why don’t you honor and respect other learned Christians who clearly contradicts your Church? Just because they are not belongs to the Catholic Church then they are wrong? That makes no sense at all.

Haha! How do you know that the ancient manuscripts don't match the originals?

I’ve already shows you what Christian scholars have said about this matter, the original writings were not preserved and they don’t exist today, so you can’t compare them with today’s Bible, plus many verses of today’s Bible does not match at all with the manuscripts which the Vatican or Jerusalem holds today. You can either take it or reject it, you can even deny it if you wish, <b>but you can’t prove something else. </b>

God's word can't change.

True, God’s word will never change, <b>but God’s words are not with you right now in today’s Bible. </b>

Prove your point further? When did your point begin to be proved?
You know that best lies are the ones that contain truth. There's about 2% of truth in that article & 98% of lies.

Ok let see what else could be a lie!! :)


I bet you have heard about Bruce Metzger ? who after studying the writings of all the Apostolic Fathers viz., Clement of Rome, Ignatius, the Didache, fragments of Papias, Barnabas, Hermas of Rome, and the so-called 2 Clement, Bruce Metzger concludes:

"For early Jewish Christians the Bible consisted of the Old Testament and some Jewish apocryphal literature. Along with this written authority went traditions, chiefly oral, of sayings attributed to Jesus. On the other hand, authors who belonged to the 'Hellenistic Wing' of the Church refer more frequently to writings that later came to be included in the New Testament. At the same time, however, they very rarely regarded such documents as 'Scripture'.
Furthermore, there was as yet no conception of the duty of exact quotation from books that were not yet in the full sense canonical. Consequently, it is sometimes exceedingly difficult to ascertain which New Testament books were known to early Christian writers; our evidence does not become clear until the end of second century." [Metzger, The Canon Of The New Testament: Its Origin, Significance & Development p. 72-73.]

Consider the following admission as well:

"The original copies of the NT books have, of course, long since disappeared. This fact should not cause surprise. In the first place, they were written on papyrus, a very fragile and perishable material. In the second place, and probably of even more importance, the original copies of the NT books were not looked upon as scripture by those of the early Christian communities." [George Arthur Buttrick (Ed.), The Interpreter's Dictionary Of The Bible, Volume 1, pp. 599 (Under Text, NT).]

There we have it. <b>The NT books were not looked upon as scripture by the early Christians. </b>


Yalla, repeat what you have said in your previous post (i.e <i>There's about 0% of truth in what they said</i>).


Ah before I forget, let me also quote what Abdurrahman Robert Squires said:

"It is interesting to see that a non-Christian scholar says that: "of all the synoptic manuscripts which can be dated to the fourth century or earlier, only two (P45and P75, both of the third century) contain more than a chapter." This can be verified by spending a little time at the Table of Greek Manuscripts page “Source

It's true -ALL of the other pre fourth century manuscripts contain only a few verses!!!"


Christians give the impression as if they possess 5000 complete Biblical manuscripts, that is simply not the case. What you really possess is small bits and pieces here and there with a couple of verses on them. As Robert Squires mentions, all of the pre fourth century manuscripts contain only a few verses.


Call it a lie yalla…

I echo everything "quoted" by the Catholics. I reject the rest which is nothing short of journalistic sensationalism.

I did not only quote what news papers have published, I also quoted what Christians scholars and learned Christians have said about this matter.


Salam


Wael.