03-01-2007, 04:40 PM
To the Sacred Heart of Jesus, through the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
Peace be with you!
Quote:What bowing down to the images of Mary has anything to do with <b>honoring</b> her? What praying to Mary has anything to do with your <b>devotion</b> to her?
What I really feel is, that you guys do worship those saints but you are just using different terms to describe your actions. (i.e instead of <b>worship</b> you use<b> honor</b>) but the acts of worship are clearly seen in your devotion to her.
Seriously man, why would we want to break the 1st Commandment?
I think I addressed veneration in post 16.
Take it or leave it, dude - no pressure :)
Quote:Some people “Catholics of course” begged Mary to save their children from some kind of sickness, then when their children were healed; <b>they truly thanked and worshipped Mary instead of the One who created her</b>!! Can you see the danger?
Catholics beg for Our Lady's intercessions. Like any mother she cares about her children & will do whatever it takes to save them. She has strong connections to her Son ;)
Quote:Plus as I pointed in my previous post, you have millions of prayers a second being offered to Mary. People in Mexico, Russia, Europe, America, Philippines and all over the world, are praying the Rosary, asking Mary <b>to be there at the hour of their death</b>, asking her <b>to guide them</b>, <b>help them</b>, <b>teach them</b>, <b>secure for them eternal redemption </b> (something catholic believes that even Jesus did not do) and <b>imploring her to come dwell in their hearts</b> as though she was able to fulfill all these requests! Subhan Allah…
We ask the BVM to "pray for us now & at the hour of our death". We ask her to guide, help & teach us to follow her Son. This can only be done through her prayers.
Secure eternal redemption? :blink: I think you mean salvation :)
Dwell in our hearts? :blink: The Holy Spirit dwells in our hearts :)
Quote:You and your fellow Catholic may deny that Mary is a god (or any other saints that you guys pray to) but by asking all these things of her, <b>she would have to be God to do them</b>, and since she is not God according to your beliefs, <b>then you should direct your prayers and supplications to the ONLY ONE WHO HEARS IT
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I certainly hope all Catholics deny the Saints are gods :lol:
The only gift Our Lady can grant us is her extremely powerful intercession.
There's no polytheism in Catholicism, Wael. I promise you!
Insh a Allah, we'll all join the Saints in Heaven & offer prayers for our brothers & sisters on earth.
God bless.