03-01-2007, 03:44 PM
To the Sacred Heart of Jesus, through the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
Peace be with you!
Quote:I am sorry FHC but there is alot of polytheism in Christianity especially in the Catholic Church.
Look, The Bible and history clearly revealed that there is <b>only ONE GOD with very unique attributes</b>: So there is only one God. but when a person or a religion ascribes these attributes to someone or something other than the God of creation, then they become <b>POLYTHEISTIC</b>. and this is most surely what we find in the practices of the Catholics...
for example, In the Catholic Church Mary is very clearly considered to be holy . now the good catholic person prays to Mary ten times to one every time he says a Rosary. <b>Who is preeminent: Mary or God the Father?</b> You believes that Mary can hear your prayer <b>and at the same time hear the prayer of another Catholic a thousand miles away</b>. If that is true, <b>then Mary is omnipresent!</b> (<b>an attribute of God</b>). You believes that Mary can discern the intent behind the repetitious prayer you recites. If that is true, <b>then Mary is omniscient</b>! Now then, <b>Mary is OMNIPOTENT, OMNISCIENCE, and OMNIPRESENT just like the Creator</b>. Mary then, according to Roman Catholic teaching, is A GOD! dont think that i am a crazy FHC, just have a look at what official catholics said about Mary...
Thanks for opening my eyes, Wael. I'll worship in a Mosque from now on.
Mate, I don't know where you copied & pasted the above dribble but I found the same dribbe (word for word) on a few anti-Catholic sites, two of which are:
http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/roma...sm/RC1199W4.htm
http://www.reachingcatholics.org/polytheistic.html
Next time you borrow material, please acknowledge the author. You could be sued or imprisoned for violating copyright laws. That's the last thing I need on my conscience.
:P :P :P
Okie dokie, all jokes aside now, let's get down to business. It's a little difficult to comment on these one-liners because I don't have the preceding or following lines but I'll do my best to make sense of them. I'll also keep it very basic...
Quote:"God has entrusted the keys and treasures of heaven to Mary." Thomas Aquinas
Jesus Christ entrusted the keys & treasures of Heaven to the Church. The BVM is a "type" or symbol of Holy Mother Church because of her immaculate holiness. We're called to imitate the BVM in her sinlessness. She's the ultimate example of how we are to obey God. She & the Church guide the faithful to Heaven.
Quote:"Who can worthily thank thee and adequately praise thee, oh Blessed Virgin, who by thy fiat has saved a lost world." St. Augustine
By saying "yes" to God, the BVM was the vessel for the Saviour. She's known as co-redemptorist. No Mary, no Jesus.
Quote:"The foundation of all our confidence is found in the Blessed Virgin Mary. God has committed to her the treasury of all good things, in order that everyone may know that through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is His will: That we obtain everything through Mary." Pope Pius IX
Hope, Grace & Salvation = Jesus Christ, who took flesh from the BVM. She's the Holy Tabernacle who carried the Son of God within her.
Quote:"Sinners receive pardon by the intercession of Mary alone." St. John Chrysostom
The BVM is often called the "Finder of Grace", therefore, when we lose the Grace of God through sin, we should seek to recover it through the BVM who found it from day one.
Quote:"No one ever finds Christ but with and through Mary. Whoever seeks Christ apart from Mary seeks Him in vain." St. Bonaventure
No Mary, no Jesus. By the BVM, the Son of God descended from Heaven into the world, so that by her we might ascend from earth into Heaven. Everything she says & does leads us to her Son.
Quote:"All those who seek Mary’s protection will be saved for all eternity." Pope Benedict XV
The BVM is our defence on earth. Why? Because unlike the first Eve who gave into temptation, the New Eve, the BVM, crushed the head of Satan. By asking our mother to protect us, we have nothing to fear.
Quote:"What will it cost you, oh Mary, to hear our prayer? What will it cost you to save us? Has not Jesus placed in your hands all the treasures of His grace and mercy? You sit crowned Queen at the right hand of your son: your dominion reaches as far as the heavens and to you are subject the earth and all creatures dwelling thereon. Your dominion reaches even down into the abyss of hell, and you alone, oh Mary, save us from the hands of Satan." Pope Pius Xl
This is beautiful... "O Mary, blessed are you among women, for you have brought forth life for all. The mother of our race brought punishment into the world; the Mother of Our Lord brought salvation to the world. Eve was the originator of sin, Mary was the originator of merit" (St Augustine).
Quote:"Mary, not one of thy devout servants has ever perished: may I, too, Be saved!" Pope Benedict XV
I'm up to the last quote & still no verse from the Bible. Shame on me :o
<i>His mother said to the servents, "Do whatever He tells you" (St John 2:5).</i>
You can't go wrong bearing the mark of the BVM's servant.
Quote:This is plain worship to Mary FHC, worship to other that God Almighty and so <b>this is polytheism</b>
From an Islamic point of view, it might appear to be polytheism... but honestly it's not. Muslims love the BVM too! In fact so many Muslims make a pilgrimage to 'Our Lady of Fatima' in Portugal. She's the link that joins us together :) Look out though... as Archbishop Fulteen Sheen (RIP) once said, "She is forever a ‘traitor’, in the sense that she will not accept any devotion for herself, but will always bring anyone who is devoted to her to her Divine Son." ;)
Mary, Queen of all the Saints... please pray for us!