02-27-2007, 04:53 AM
(This post was last modified: 02-27-2007, 04:57 AM by Faith Hope Charity.)
In the Name of God - Creator Redeemer Sanctifier.
May the peace of Jesus Christ be with you!
Quote:NO NO my <i>smart</i> one, don’t trap me please hehehehe… :D :D :D
You know <b>very very very well </b> what you mean when you say <i>UNCREATED</i>, you do believe that Jesus existed before all ages and before all times, you believe that he was the creator and no one creates him. And using the term <b>UNCREATED</b> you are referring to God Almighty which is Jesus, but you make us to understand that <i>begotten and uncreated </i> are one and the same thing which is totally WORNG...
God ALmighty created all of us with the command “BE” and we were, He does not need to beget any children.
So don’t play games huh… :D Begotten does not mean uncreated. Ok.
Huh? I don't get it :lol:
Listen Wael, no disrespect to the holy Qur'an but Christians don't believe that God begot anyone or anything. We declare that the Father begot the Son (we're dealing with Persons). The word "beget" is understood by us as it's understood in the above Ayat. The Son of God is uncreated. The Father, the Son & the Holy Spirit are co-equal & co-eternal. God cannot make another God because God has no beginning.
I thought you & I decided to drop the subject. Why do you keep bringing it up? You refuse to grasp the concept & I refuse to budge, so let's just call it quits. It's for the best, habib!
Quote:I still insist on using any Bible as long as there is no proof at all on the authenticity of any version, if you declare right now in plain English that all versions of the Bible are not the word of God except the RCV, then I will use no other version but the RCV at least when discussing with you, but you cant even admit that.
After receiving a good piece of advice from a Protestant board member, I'll no longer be differentiating between Catholics & Protestants as we're all Christians (you have permission to swing your arm :punch: if I break this promise).
RCV??? I think you mean RSV :D That's the Bible I study/read, therefore, I'll continue quoting & interpreting from it. You're free to use any Bible you choose, Mate, but please don't preach it to me based on your private interpretation :lol:
It's not so much about which Bible is the word of God... it has more to do with the canonised books & the approved Bibles of the Catholic Church.
Quote:Even if you ask the Shi'a to qutoe you any verse from the Qur'an, they will use one and only Qur'an, we do not have <b>"Qur'anic King James Version"</b>...
Haha! Well I did say "tradition" not "Quran" but since you mentioned it... is there any truth to the rumour I heard recently about 2 main versions of the Qur'an floating around the world... Sunni - Uthmanic recension & Shiite - Ibn Masud codex ??? Just wondering!
You stay cool too :)
God bless.