Bismillah:
Assalamo Alikum...
Don’t get emotional FHC :) … I am not asking you to revert to Islam; this is not my job, just stay calm and let us have a good discussion.
Quote:If someone can find the word "original" in my above quote, I'll consider reverting to Islam (no editing, moderators ).
And I was simply asking you about the Original manuscripts!!! <i>Where are they</i>? They do not exist, so how can anyone say that today’s Bible is the accurate word of God? just because the Catholic Church said so? other Christians said the same thing too, but their versions of the Bibles are totally different and contradicts your version!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Quote:The Holy Bible is the property of the Catholic Church - the collection of books which formed the Holy Bible were declared canonical in the 4th century AD by the Catholic Church, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
All other sects of Christianity say the same thing, even the (<b>RSV 1952</b>) who does not contain the 7 extra books of the RCV claim that their Bible was written by the inspiration of the <b>‘Holy Ghost’</b>… I also know that today’s’ Bible mentioned that all scriptures were given by inspiration, <b>but that does not mean in anyway that what we are holding today is the original inspired word of God. </b>
Quote:Anglican ministers (the mastermind denomination behind he KJV) don't even believe what's written in the Holy Bible, therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if they modify it in years to come.
The don't believe that many parts of today's Bible are belongs to the original writtings, they have their reasons and they have done their research.
Quote:The only part of the Holy Bible that the Catholic Church would & could change is the commentary section.
Then why don’t you go and ask your Catholic Church, why they've produced a whole Encyclopedia and in it they declared that ALL Scriptures were altered? by them or by someone else, is not our problem, the important is that the ORIGINAL writings were not put together as they were originally written.
Quote:The pure, revealed, living & Incarnate Word of God is Jesus Christ.
I am not talking about Jesus pbuh now, i am talking about <b>"the Gospel of Christ"</b> Do you have any document that carry his name ? NO... all what you got is <b>"the gospel according to so and so"</b>. this is NOT the original Gospel of Jesus Christ pbuh.
Quote:The Sacred Scriptures contain the Word of God & because they're divinely inspired, they become the written word of God. Only the Catholic Church has the right to transmit the Word/word of God & she does so in light of Sacred Tradition which is also divinely inspired & cannot err.
But the Church itself said that the Scriptures were altered!!! so how can you say something else?
Quote:If you manage to track down one dogma pertaining to faith/morals which the Church has altered in any way, shape or form throughout Christian history, I'll reach for my veil, race to the mosque & shout the Shahadah from the tops of my lungs...
1- I already mentioned before about this famous story of Jesus pbuh forgiving the woman who committed adultery; this story not to be found even in the existed manuscripts, it was a later addition.
2- I also pointed out before regarding Mark 16:9-20, that many Biblical scholars admits that <b>“ the most reliable early manuscript and other ancient witnesses do not have this verse”</b> and yet we can find it today in the modern Bibles.
Now you tell me who have the right to add to the "<b>word of God</b>"?
<b>Arent these 2 points enough for anyone to understand that the Bible of today was altered ?</b>
Quote:Thanks for respecting my beliefs. I respect yours too, bro. I'll try not to overly insist on truth in the future... so long as you quit lecturing me on Catholicism & begin educating me more on Islam.
I am not lecturing here, I am presenting a case, you may follow it or just ignore all of it. You are learning about Islam here but you also trying to educate us about your faith whenever we teach you something that is opposite to your beliefs. Anyway, I feel that this topic is very important for those who really want to know the truth about today’s Bible, if you getting emotional so please do not respond to this thread anymore.
Quote:The authenticity of the Qur'an is a good place to start
We have covered this subject before on our forums, probably it is on <b>“discussion and beliefs”</b> forum.
Salam
Wael.