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02-23-2007, 01:42 PM (This post was last modified: 02-23-2007, 01:45 PM by umm Zachariah.)

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Quote:Thanks so much for answering my questions I hope you don't mind if we take it a step further.

You're welcome. No problem.




Quote:Through Original Sin we lose our likeness to God, however, by Christ's redemption, it's restored.

Can I read about this lost likeness in the Bible?




Quote:We profess that the Son is begotten of the Father. We don't believe that God begets another god.

I understand this. But what does then begotten mean?


There are Christians that believe that Jesus pbuh is God incarnated. And to me as a Muslimah, trying not to see this scenario as 'not another God' fails every time. So praying to Jesus pbuh/God seems to me, like praying to two Gods. One invisable and one visable.




Quote:Jesus taught humanity the greatest lessons - Love God with all your heart, mind & strength; & love your neighbour as yourself ...

Good lessons to partake of.


''Say: "If ye do love Allah, Follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." The Qur'an 3:31


''Serve Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For Allah loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious'' The Qur'an 4:36


Basic guidelines that will give us success in this life and in the coming one inshaAllah.




Quote:You can't serve God if you don't love Him. You can't love God if you don't know Him, therefore, our purpose is to know, love & serve God. We don't simply become His slaves because that's what He commands us to do. It's way deeper than that for Christians. (which is why I'm still battling between predestination vs freewill in Islam)

Very true. Truly you cannot be a slave, you cannot submit to Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala if you have not understood Who He is. That is not possible. It is a cooperation between the mind and soul and heart to come to that point. Then you are a true believer inshaAllah.


"Battles" will always arise on our travel, whoever we are. We learn from them inshaAllah.




Quote:What has Allah (SWT) given us that He hasn't given them? They're vegetative & sensitive creatures too. Are there animals in Paradise too?

I would say reason.


Of course animals are to be valued and cherised too.


Reminds me of a hadith that speaks of a woman that has had a cat and treated it very badly and she is therefore sent to Hell. Sorry haven't checked the correct reference here. And that speaks volumes, don't you agree?




Quote:That's my whole point! If Allah (SWT) forgave them, why did they remain on earth? They were sent here as a punishment but as soon as their sin/guilt was washed away, logic tells us they should've returned to their original state.

That is your conlusion. How do you know, since He is the Omnipotent and All-Knowing that He did not plan this? The lesson learnt in the Garden is a lesson as I see it. Listen, learn and follow. If you fail, you can repent and ask for forgivness. But you must always stay on the right path.




Quote:Why aren't we tested in Paradise since we're without sin???
Is one of the 99 names of Allah (SWT) "evil one"? If not, then evil can't be in Allah's (SWT) presence.

Why should we be tested in Paradise? What is the purpose?


True, but He is the creator, isn't He? He can create whatever He likes. He will not ask for our permission before doing so.




Quote:Before you ask, Satan's a fallen angel in Christianity - he was created good... because God can't create anything contrary to his nature.

Yes I am aware of this part. In Islam he is a Jinn.


If you want to read more about this issue, I suggest,


http://muttaqun.com/jinn.html




Quote:However, if you fail to look & consequently get run over by a car is it due to Allah's (SWT) will? Was it written?

Since death is given to us by Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala I would say yes.




Quote:From my understanding, the Qur'an & Hadith doesn't quite agree with your above statement & so far on this forum... Wael, Muslimah & Dan have expressed different viewpoints regarding this issue... which is why I'm so lost!

Let's see how we progress. Not seldom we have the same thoughts and approach but may express it differently.


Thanks, take care you too.

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Messages In This Thread
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-18-2007, 08:57 PM
Passion of Christ - by Ruggedtouch - 02-18-2007, 09:08 PM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-18-2007, 10:59 PM
Passion of Christ - by Ruggedtouch - 02-18-2007, 11:18 PM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 02-19-2007, 05:42 AM
Passion of Christ - by radiyah - 02-19-2007, 07:05 AM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 02-19-2007, 09:55 AM
Passion of Christ - by radiyah - 02-19-2007, 10:11 AM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-19-2007, 10:50 AM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-19-2007, 10:54 AM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-19-2007, 11:03 AM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 02-19-2007, 11:34 AM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-19-2007, 04:52 PM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-19-2007, 04:57 PM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 02-20-2007, 03:00 AM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-20-2007, 11:05 AM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-20-2007, 11:25 AM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 02-20-2007, 12:53 PM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-22-2007, 06:15 PM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-22-2007, 06:26 PM
Passion of Christ - by Dan - 02-22-2007, 06:39 PM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-22-2007, 07:34 PM
Passion of Christ - by Dan - 02-22-2007, 07:52 PM
Passion of Christ - by Dan - 02-22-2007, 10:52 PM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-22-2007, 11:49 PM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 02-23-2007, 01:14 AM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 02-23-2007, 01:30 AM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 02-23-2007, 01:42 PM
Passion of Christ - by Dan - 02-23-2007, 03:07 PM
Passion of Christ - by Dan - 02-23-2007, 05:39 PM
Passion of Christ - by Dan - 02-23-2007, 11:25 PM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 02-24-2007, 01:10 PM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 02-24-2007, 01:56 PM
Passion of Christ - by wel_mel_2 - 02-25-2007, 01:51 AM
Passion of Christ - by SisterJennifer - 02-25-2007, 03:12 PM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 02-26-2007, 03:52 AM
Passion of Christ - by wel_mel_2 - 02-26-2007, 04:16 AM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 02-27-2007, 04:53 AM
Passion of Christ - by wel_mel_2 - 02-27-2007, 05:05 AM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 02-28-2007, 12:47 PM
Passion of Christ - by wel_mel_2 - 03-01-2007, 02:53 AM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 03-02-2007, 04:03 PM
Passion of Christ - by wel_mel_2 - 03-03-2007, 04:46 AM
Passion of Christ - by Muslimah - 03-03-2007, 08:22 AM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 03-03-2007, 11:15 AM
Passion of Christ - by Muslimah - 03-03-2007, 11:36 AM
Passion of Christ - by umm Zachariah - 03-05-2007, 02:42 PM
Passion of Christ - by Faith Hope Charity - 03-06-2007, 12:22 AM

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