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A Comparison
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Bismillah:


Change of plans. You have a point! I've decided to reply to your comments :D I woke up this morning energized!!!



Always glad to hear your comments.





Quote:"Christian" simply refers to a follower of Christ.

I was talking about the name of your religion, not what the followers of Christ should be called…





Quote:The Anglican Church didn't say that, one of its members did. He's free to say whatever he wants!

First of all, its not only one of its member who said that, but <b>the majority of Anglican Bishops do not worship Jesus pbuh as God.</b>


again am quoting what was found in the British news papers:





Quote:"<b>More than half of England's Anglican Bishops say that Christians are not obliged to believe that Jesus Christ was God</b>, according to a survey published today. The pole of 31 of England's 39 bishops shows that many of them think that Christ's miracles, the virgin birth and the resurrection might not have happened exactly as described in the Bible. Only 11 of the bishops insisted that Christians must regard Christ as both God and man, while 19 said it was sufficient to regard Jesus as <b>'God's supreme agent'</b>"

Any sane person can understand why they are in conflict, I say because <b>there is not a single verse in the whole Bible where Jesus explicitly declared that he was God.</b>


Subhana Allah, those Bishops are saying nothing but what Jesus pbuh said about himself.


"And this is life eternal, that <b>they might know thee the only
true God</b>, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." John 17:3


Without the help of any Church's interpretation or the Holy Ghost, to me <i>ONLY means ONLY</i>... <b>can never be (me "jesus" too is included)</b>


A N D... someone who was SENT, in the English language we call him a messenger, and this is what Jesus pbuh said about himself.


Heinz Zahrnt said:





Quote:"put words into the mouth of Jesus which he never spoke and attributed actions to him which he never performed."




Quote:Yalla hurry!!! Read my thread on 'Discussion of Beliefs' before it disappears.

It's not going to disappear FHC, did any of your posts disapeared before? … don’t worry, am going to post my comments soon insh a Allah.





Quote:Really? I didn't know that! Could you please provide me with the Sura/Ayat? Thanks .

"There is among them (Jews) a section <b>who distort the Book with their tongues: (as they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, 'That is from Allah,' but it is not from Allah: It is they who tell a lie against Allah and (well) they know it!" </b> (Surah 3, Ali 'Imran, verse 78).


"But because of their breach of their Covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard: <b>They change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the Message that was sent them</b>, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few- ever bent on (new) deceits: But forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): For God loveth those who are kind" (Surah 5, Al Ma'idah, verse 13).


There are many other verses I may post later insh a Allah.





Quote:I mentioned the names of our ancient manuscripts that date back to the early centuries AD (Chester Beatty Papyri, Bodmer Papyri, Codex Vaticanus, Codex Sinaiticus). They agree to what we read today in our Catholic Bibles

Where are these <b>ORIGINAL</b> scriptures? and how did you know that they are matching perfectly with the catholic BibleS?? and how can i get copy of those original manuscripts to compare them with today's Bible? and do you have any original that was writting in the language that was spoken by Jesus pbuh himself?





Quote:<i>so <b>the Father</b> is asking <b>H</b>im this question in order for Jesus to testify loudly and clearly infront of his followers that he did nothing but conveying <b>the Father's will</b> and delivering the same pure message of Abraham and Moses to <b>H</b>is people (i.e that we should worship God alone, the God of Abraham, Moses). and not anyone else. </i>

What a great idea!! is this how you guys are expert in changing the words :D





Quote:The Sign of the Cross is the prayer of the baptized. Jesus Christ told His Apostles to "baptize all nations in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (St Matthew 28:19). We cross ourselves because Jesus asked us to deny ourselves & carry our cross daily (St Luke 9:23). The Christian begins his day, his prayers, & his activities with the Sign of the Cross. The baptized person dedicates the day to the glory of God & calls on the Son's grace which let's him act in the Spirit as an adopted child of the Father. The Sign of the Cross strengthens us in temptations & difficulties.

No comments.





Quote:Yes! We are praying to Three distinct Persons - the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit - One God. I don't have any problems understanding or accepting this truth. I've tried to simplify it for you in 'Discussion of Beliefs'. Here's a sneak peek...

my reply is coming soon insh a Allah on "discussion and beliefs" thread.





Quote:I've actually added Wael to my planner. I allocate time during the day to reply to his posts - LOL!
I'm literally running on empty. The Holy Spirit has taken over.


I'm surprised you chose that verse over St Matthew 7:6 ;)


Let's wait & see how many more rounds we can go - hehe

If i am bothering you that much please let me know, no hard feelings at all. :)


Salam


Wael

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