Bismillah:
Quote:How someone can call himself a Christian & not believe what's "described in the Bible" is beyond me!
Yes exactly, then why are you calling your religion as “Christianity” ? Does the Bible <b>describe</b> Jesus' religion as Christianity? Does Jesus himself ever call his faith as Christianity? <b>NO</b>... so you too should not call your religion as Christianity because it was NOT mentioned in the Bible... <b>NOT EVEN ONCE.</b> so don’t blame the Anglican Church, all what they said is that:
Christ's miracles, the virgin birth and the resurrection <b>MIGHT</b> not have happened <b>EXACTLY</b> as described in the Bible.
Quote:It's not difficult for everyone. The Blessed Trinity is concealed in the O/T & made manifest in the N/T. From the moment Jesus Christ revealed this supernatural truth to the world, the Church has not denied it, but instead, relied on Theology to explore & explain the doctrine (not the mystery).
<b>Jesus never taught trinity</b>, unless you bring some verses from your Book of authority to support your claim (i.e that Jesus revealed this supernatural truth to the world etc) then you should not promote such thing.
Quote:For more info, please check "Discussion of Beliefs".
Am going to read it and comment if needed insh a Allah. :)
Quote:005.017
YUSUFALI: In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary.
As I've drilled into Wael's head time & time again... Christians don't profess that "God is Jesus". God is: Father, Son, Holy Spirit. It's inappropriate to call God "Jesus", however, it's perfectly acceptable to say "Jesus is God", because person answers the question, who? & nature answers the question, what? I hope that makes sense! The above translation seems a little dodgy. Is that how it's worded in Arabic? (I can read Arabic but I only own an English version of the Qur'an)
Most surely you have not come across any Christian who says that <b>God is Jesus</b>!!
Quote:005.047
YUSUFALI: Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.
005.048
YUSUFALI: To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;
So basically, these Ayat's are telling Christians to search their Scriptures for God's true message & obey it. If that's the case, then you can't blame a Catholic for being a Catholic! Please let us judge our Bible & live according to it.
If you believe in the above verses, then you should also know that somewhere else in the Qur’an, God informed us that those <b>ORIGINAL</b> scriptures were corrupted by the hands of men to conceal a lot of its truth. and that’s why I always ask you where are your original scriptures?
Quote:005.051
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
No comment.
Sure no comments, because you have only red this verse and for some reasons you were not able to continue reading in order for you to understand the meaning of this verse.
Quote:005.116
YUSUFALI: And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
Dan & I both know very well that Jesus never told His followers to worship His blessed mother as a god. Truth be told, this whole Ayat is just sooooooo weird to me, as I'm sure you can imagine.
Yes but there are <b>MANY MANY MANY</b> people do worship Mary and Jesus and have totally forgotten about the true Creator!!!, or in you terminology, they’ve forgotten their duty towards the FATHER... and so God wants Jesus pbuh himself to be witness over his followers, so he is asking him this question in order for Jesus to testify loudly and clearly infront of his followers that he did nothing but conveying God’s orders and delivering the same pure message of Abraham and Moses to his people (i.e that we should worship God alone, the God of Abraham, Moses and Jesus). and not anyone else.
Quote:We make the Sign of the Cross (In the NAME of the Father, & of the Son, & of the Holy Spirit. Amen.) because we're offering up our prayers to God.
<b>Yes but from where did you get such prayer? who teach you this prayer? and why do you make the sign of Cross where in fact it was not pracriced by Jesus and it was NOT mentioned in the Bible? </b>
Quote:Notice how we say "name" rather than "names", because we're praying to ONE GOD, not three gods. In Arabic, "One God" is actually inserted before "Amen" - this is to avoid confusion between Christians & Muslims in the Middle East... seriously!
But you also say <b>AND, AND , AND </b> after each name which indicate that you are praying <b>to three persons</b>… now you are calling these three persons one, which is NOT understandable as we’ve discussed earlier.
Salam
Wael