02-11-2007, 06:05 AM
Bismillah:
Assalamo Alikum and thanks for your time in answering my questions, but there are still many remains :D
Quote:Hopefully, these paragraphs taken straight out of the Catechism of the Catholic Church will help make things clear
i was hoping to see some biblical verses as well.
Quote:841 - The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
Ok now this paragraph depends entirely on author’s intention and his definition of the word “the Creator”… does he mean that God Almighty the Creator <b>who is NOT JESUS CHRIST</b>? <b>Does he mean that Jesus is NOT THE CREATOR??? </b>
So my question again, if we Muslims do acknowledge The Creator, but also believe that Jesus Christ pbuh have nothing to do with this Creation, <b>will we still be included in the plan of salvation? </b>
And if we will be excluded, will you still be happy for those who are not Christians?
Quote:847 - Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
Like those who were born and died before the advent of Christ? Ok this is another issue, now we believe in Christ as you know but in a dfferent way, so will we be saved in this case?
The rest of the paragraphs doesn’t really explain what you meant in your statement that you are happy for those who are not of your faith and believe that their religion is right for them. also in one of your posts you even said that you don’t care whether this person is a Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu or whatever, <b>as long as his faith brings him closer to God</b>!!! From where did you get this sort of beliefs? Is this your personal opinion or the Bible promotes such thing?
Quote:My dearest Wael, I hope that does it for you, bro! As you can see, the Church's teachings NEVER contradict Scripture, but rather, they go hand in hand.
So is there any passage from the Bible that matches with the first paragraph that you quoted for example? And why you quote only from the catechism and not directly from the Bible <b>If both go hand in hand as you claimed</b>?
Quote:please take the time out to read everything properly! Don't be lazy & skim through it all - hehe!
Ok… :D
Salam
Wael.