Bismillah:
Assalamo Alikum FHC
St John 5:19-46
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Jesus answered and said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, a son cannot do anything on his own, but only what he sees his father doing; for what he does, his son will do also.
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For the Father loves his Son and shows him everything that he himself does, and he will show him greater works than these, so that you may be amazed.
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For just as the Father raises the dead and gives life, so also does the Son give life to whomever he wishes.
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Nor does the Father judge anyone, but he has given all judgment to his Son,
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so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.
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Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes in the one who sent me has eternal life and will not come to condemnation, but has passed from death to life.
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Amen, amen, I say to you, the hour is coming and is now here when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.
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For just as the Father has life in himself, so also he gave to his Son the possession of life in himself.
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And he gave him power to exercise judgment, because he is the Son of Man.
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Do not be amazed at this, because the hour is coming in which all who are in the tombs will hear his voice
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and will come out, those who have done good deeds to the resurrection of life, but those who have done wicked deeds to the resurrection of condemnation.
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"I cannot do anything on my own; I judge as I hear, and my judgment is just, because I do not seek my own will but the will of the one who sent me.
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"If I testify on my own behalf, my testimony cannot be verified.
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But there is another who testifies on my behalf, and I know that the testimony he gives on my behalf is true.
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You sent emissaries to John, and he testified to the truth.
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I do not accept testimony from a human being, but I say this so that you may be saved.
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He was a burning and shining lamp, and for a while you were content to rejoice in his light.
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But I have testimony greater than John's. The works that the Father gave me to accomplish, these works that I perform testify on my behalf that the Father has sent me.
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Moreover, the Father who sent me has testified on my behalf. But you have never heard his voice nor seen his form,
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and you do not have his word remaining in you, because you do not believe in the one whom he has sent.
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You search the scriptures, because you think you have eternal life through them; even they testify on my behalf.
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But you do not want to come to me to have life.
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"I do not accept human praise;
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moreover, I know that you do not have the love of God in you.
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I came in the name of my Father, but you do not accept me; yet if another comes in his own name, you will accept him.
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How can you believe, when you accept praise from one another and do not seek the praise that comes from the only God?
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Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father: the one who will accuse you is Moses, in whom you have placed your hope.
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For if you had believed Moses, you would have believed me, because he wrote about me.
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But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?"
Where in the above verses where Jesus declares that he did anything on his own power? In facts he admits that he was given the power by God (NOT HIS OWN)…
I do not want to argue about this much. But to be honest with you, I cannot see anywhere in the Bible where Jesus pbuh was doing anything on his own, all the works that he have done is God's (The Father if you would like to call Him), which mean to me that Jesus pbuh was not God.
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You call me 'teacher' and 'master,' and rightly so, for indeed I am.
Very interesting verse… is there any verse similar to this where he said indeed I am God Almighty? (Please don’t quote “before Abraham was I am” because its vague and does not really mean that he is God)
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Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on my own. The Father who dwells in me is doing his works.
according to Jesus the Father is dwelling in everyone, however this verse is another declaration from the lips of the master that the Father is the doer of all these great works and not Jesus. (in other words, Jesus is not doing anything on his own).
I'm aware that Muslims respect & honour Jesus Christ as a beloved Prophet, but isn't it true that Muslims regard Mohammad (PBUH) as the greatest of all prophets?
Not only Muslims who regard Muhammad pbuh as the greatest of all human beings, please allow me to quote unbiased historians, friendly critics and even avowed enemies and see what they said about that mighty messenger of God Muhammad pbuh. If the tributes of the non Muslims do not touch your heart, then there is nothing more can be said FHC…
<b>Taken from Ahmed Deedat’s works.</b>
Michael H. Hart, described as a historian, mathematician and astronomer has written a book called “The 100”. He has searched history, seeking for men who had the greatest influence on mankind. In this book he gives us The hundred most influential men, including Asoka, Aristotle, Buddha, Confucius, Hitler, Plato, and Zoroaster. He does not give us a mere chart of the topmost "one hundred" from the point of view of their influence on people, but he evaluates the degree of their influence and rates them in order of their excellence from No. 1, through to No. 100. He gives us his reasons for the placing of his candidates. We are not asked to agree with him, but we cannot help admire the man's research and honesty.
<b>The most amazing thing about his selection is that he has put our Prophet Muhammad pbuh on the top of his list as No. 1 unknowingly, God's Own testimony in His Final Revelation to the World: </b>
MOST CERTAINLY, YOU HAVE IN THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH AN EXCELLENT PATTERN (OF BEHAVIOUR)
Holy Quran 33:21
A N D he placed Jesus pbuh as No 3. and he gave us his reason.
SINCE THERE ARE ROUGHLY TWICE AS MANY CHRISTIANS IN THE WORLD, IT MAY INITIALLY SEEM STRANGE THAT MUHAMMAD HAS BEEN RANKED HIGHER THAN JESUS. THERE ARE TWO PRINCIPAL REASONS FOR THAT DECISION.
<b>MUHAMMAD PLAYED A FAR MORE IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF ISLAM THAN JESUS DID IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF </b>
CHRISTIANITY.
ALTHOUGH JESUS WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAIN ETHICAL AND MORAL PRECEPTS OF CHRISTIANITY (INSOFAR AS THESE DIFFERED FROM JUDAISM), <b>ST. PAUL WAS THE MAIN DEVELOPER OF CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY, ITS PRINCIPAL MUHAMMAD, HOWEVER, WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR BOTH THE THEOLOGY OF ISLAM AND ITS MAIN ETHICAL AND MORAL PRINCIPLES. IN ADDITION, HE PLAYED THE KEY ROLE IN PROSELYTIZING THE NEW FAITH, AND IN ESTABLISHING THE RELIGIOUS PRACTICES OF ISLAM. </b>
Michael H. Hart in his book - "THE 100"-pages 38/39
"<b>MY CHOICE OF MUHAMMAD TO LEAD THE LIST OF THE WORLD'S MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS MAY SURPRISE SOME READERS AND MAY BE </b>
QUESTIONED BY OTHERS, BUT HE WAS THE ONLY MAN IN HISTORY WHO WAS SUPREMELY SUCCESSFUL ON BOTH THE RELIGIOUS AND SECULAR LEVEL."
Michael H. Hart "The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in history"
JULES MASSERMAN, United States psychoanalyst and professor of the Chicago University said:
"Leaders must fulfil three functions--"
No. 1 THE LEADER MUST PROVIDE FOR THE WELL-BEING OF THE LEAD ...
No. 2 THE LEADER OR WOULD BE LEADER MUST PROVIDE A SOCIAL ORGANIZATION IN WHICH PEOPLE FEEL RELATIVELY SECURE ...
No. 3 THAT THIS LEADER MUST PROVIDE HIS PEOPLE WITH ONE SET OF BELIEFS ...
PERHAPS <b>THE GREATEST LEADER OF ALL TIMES WAS MUHAMMED, WHO COMBINED ALL THREE FUNCTIONS. TO A LESSER DEGREE, MOSES </b>
DID THE SAME
I think those people were not bribed to record such facts and share them with the rest of the world.
More quotes?
A Hindu scholar - Diwan Chand Sharma in his "The Prophets of the East," Calcutta 1935, p. 122.
"FOUR YEARS AFTER THE DEATH OF JUSTINIAN, A.D. 569, WAS BORN AT MAKKAH, IN ARABIA THE MAN WHO, OF ALL MEN EXERCISED THE GREATEST INFLUENCE UPON THE HUMAN RACE ... MOHAMMED ..."
George Bernard Shaw, in "The Genuine Islam,- Vol. 1, No. 81936.
"I HAVE STUDIED HIM - THE WONDERFUL MAN - AND IN MY OPINION FAR FROM BEING AN ANTI-CHRIST, HE MUST BE CALLED THE SAVIOUR OF HUMANITY."
R. Bosworth-Smith in "Mohammed and Mohammedanism".- 1946.
"BY A FORTUNE ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE IN HIS- TORY, MOHAMMED IS A THREEFOLD FOUNDER OF A NATION, OF AN EMPIRE, AND OF A RELIGION."
Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th Edition
"MOHAMMED WAS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL OF ALL RELIGIOUS PERSONALITIES."
So not only Muslims who considered Muhammad to be the greatest, but even honest Non Muslims validate this fact.
Are you positive the Qur'an says not to make a distinction?
This link answers your question smart lady :)
Muhammad pbuh
I just want you to know that although I'm always prepared to defend my faith, my goal isn't to convert anyone on these boards.
Your goal and intention are clear and we believe you. Also our intention not to convert anyone to Islam, this is not our job, it’s only through Allah’s Guidance and Mercy do people find their way to Islam.
Salam
Wael.