01-06-2007, 10:40 PM
Quote:this *may* not be entirely true..
Why does the term “conspiracy theorist” come to mind?
Quote:as opposed to the political parties in the western world, who use satelites to track people, indiscriminately eavesdrop on phone calls, plan to implant people, force 'democracy' on other countries?? (etc etc)
curious how most of these are organisations that seek to overthrow the established rule? (to quote from pop culture - isn't it the american dream to kill your boss?) ie: overthrow your tyrant?
Let me guess. You spend a lot of time on “Prisonplanet” and other such tabloid web sites.
1. I have no problem if satellites are used to track terrorists and other criminals.
2. You’ll have to offer something more than hysterical claims about “indiscriminately eavesdrop(ing)" on phone calls if you're hoping to make some point.
3. My dog is chipped. You’ll have to offer something more than hysterical claims if you’re suggesting that the government will require people to be chipped.
4. What “force” would that be? The Iraqi people, for example, were given the opportunity to choose a representative government. I suspect that they will eventually choose to elect an Arab strongman who will dismantle all of the opportunities they were given, but that will be their choice. Unless you believe that the Afghani people are better off under the auspices of knuckle dragging 7th century throwbacks, (the Taliban), who treat the female population little better than cattle, then you need to step up to the plate and offer viable solutions.
Isolationism and the allowance of other peoples to go about their business may be an appropriate policy at certain times and may be an appropriate policy to apply to certain areas of government - in cases where we deem it to be non-beneficial to interfere in the operation of foreign nations, we will not do so. If we deem it to be beneficial, we will.
The value of the international community is to impose certain penalties on nations that harm others excessively for their own gain - sometimes this is formal through sanctions or combat, but more regularly through intangible attacks on trade, political capital and the like. The value of morality is the belief, not that we should ever NOT pursue that which benefits us most as a nation, but that there is value INHERENT in acting rightly: that right action generates a value that must be considered alongside economic, security, political and other issues in determining the proper course of action.
5. Regarding your "american dream" comment, it appears that you watch a lot of vintage 1960's era television.
Quote:why is it so hard to understand that PROPAGANDA is everywhere!?
It's not difficult to understand at all. Consider: we in the West inarguably have the widest access to news and information than anywhere on the planet. Not everyone is discerning or discriminating in connection with what they read and watch but it's <i>caveat emptor</i>, basically.
Perhaps your dissatisfaction with Western culture could be remedied by enjoying a bit of time in an Islamic paradise: Somalia, for example.