01-06-2007, 05:14 PM
B) ..i knew it would not be so easy dealing with you ;)
Quote:I can’t say I know for certainty one way or another. I don’t believe that to be the issue, however. There’s nothing fair about responding to criticism of one’s faith with murder and mayhem.
well you've got me there.. (but you must admit then the pope was sh*t-stirring?) this is not something a 'pope' should do..? (don't you agree?) violence is never a way to solve a problem, you are correct.. (what can i say?) if the pope wants to live by the sword...
Quote:There’s an obvious double standard being applied here by Moslems. The most virulently hateful rhetoric that exists on the planet comes straight from the Mosques of the Islamic Middle East, courtesy of the Imams, Clerics and Sheiks during Friday prayers. Jews as beasts, Christians as blasphemers, infidels as dirty, etc., etc. and all part and parcel of government sponsored hate mongering.
state sponsored terrorism.. it knows no bounds.. i hear you.. (and i hear them saying the hateful rhetoric also) is this ALL muslims or a subgroup? (i guess we both know the answer to that?) are you saying because the muslims talked trash the pope may also? (where's vince McMahon? this is gonna be the match of the decade..)
Quote:Let’s suppose the Pope did have an agenda for using the descriptions he used, so what?
let's suppose the vatican had an agenda for the world.. so what..? :o
Quote:Why is it that Moslems believe their religion to be beyond reproach or criticism?
they do?
Quote:Remember that any system that doesn't allow self-criticism and/or questioning is by definition a system that has something to hide.
exactly.. i say the same about freemasons and roman catholics.. why should something be 'blasphemous' (hurtful to God) i thought nothing could hurt God..???
Quote:If the religion is noble and honest and could withstand even the slightest investigation, then the criticism of a mere mortal should not cause it’s adherents to launch into murderous fits.
no argument there ;)
Quote:I maintain those same standards apply equally to me.
as well you should :) (how else would people respect you?)
Quote:By all means, challenge my positions and critique my reasoning.
i'll try ;)
Quote:Hate me if you must,
no way :)
Quote:but don't threaten my life or the lives of my family because I disagree with you and unapologetically criticize you.
can i get a large fries too?
Quote:One is not civil or decent and in fact, one is lacking in morals and ethics if you threaten a man's life and urge others to murder him because he authored a book, for example, that challenges the ethics and morality of a vaguely historical character that some happen to revere as a religious figure.
salmon rushdie anyone?
Quote:Moslems have yet to grasp this simple ethical concept.
(ouch)
Quote:Actually, it turns this dynamic on its head by making murderous violence against its critics a noble, religious obligationouch..
suppose it's easier to destroy something than try to coexist with it..?
looking foreward to what happens next :) (btw i have no stance.. personally i think religions are used as control systems)