Quote:for me the trinity has always been one of those grey areas.
still is for me..
Quote:the way i see it and doctinally i could be blaspheming (not that ill loose any sleep over it :P). But imagine meeting GOD, for all we think we believe we still dont understand the nature of GOD in his physical manefestation (i dont mean carbon based i mean on the level that he is actually able to physically present himself to a human).
moses apparently sees God as a burning bush
Quote:does he look like us? in genesis 1:27 the Bible says: "So God created man in his own image"
well actually.. it says 'let us' (which is beside the point but i think opens up a whole NEW can of worms)
the God in the original hebrew was called ELOHIM which is a uniplural, a singular unit comprised from many.. (the same way that a 'house' is made of 'people' or a 'church' is made of the 'congregation'..) interesting stuff..
Quote:or is his pressence so immense the human mind is incapable of understanding.
not sure on this one.. if so why bother at all to meddle i mean interact with humans (if we'll never get it what's the point?) -- what we might say as peculiar where he asks abraham to sacrifice his son others say it proves that abraham feared God and was willing to give up his only begotten son (sound familiar?) (apparently these coincidences are called 'types' - they're a kind of metaphor) maybe this requires a leap of faith.. faith i just don't have at this point in time..
Quote:Jesus isnt god but he's "a part/inclusive" of gods divine pressence, he is gods sacrafice and also his messenger of his love.
yeh so the story goes.. :) if we take into account what he says on the cross (father why have you forsaken me) we can infer that there is indeed a seperation of sorts between the two (otherwise i suppose he might have said 'myself, why have i forsaken myself!' heh)
Quote:did god know jesus would be crucified because of human nature when he sent him to us, or was his death gods design from the begining? (also leads t questions about Judas did he have a choice to do what he did?)
it was part of Gods plan [edit] see genesis where God speaks to mary 'your seed will crush his head and his seed will bruise your heel' (not exact but hey this is all from memory...) it's right after the fall (apple eating) if you wanna see it..?
Quote:the holy spirit seems to be gods direct way of communication its like the will of god in its most pure sense, though it is not god in itself its more an extension.
i've heard this before.. but i don't buy it.. (as i said before about ezekial's description)
Quote:at least thats how i perceive it.
cool. thnx for sharing :)
why can't the trinity be explained simply? :banghead: